<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/6.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
I can't say how much this saddens me. I have had many wonderful times at the Battle Bunker HQ and made many wonderful friends in recent years. We joined the community there a few years ago and did our best to help it grow. We have spent thousands of hours there because it has just been so much fun. Through many changes, good and bad, we've continued to frequent the store. Maryland has now lost its HQ, its Battle Bunker and its perpetual annual Games Day event all in this one summer. GW's focus seems to be shifting away from the Maryland area and in some ways away from North America in general. These are dark uncertain times for what may be the oldest and certainly one of the largest GW hobby communities in all of North America. I certainly hope we do get another Battle Bunker for the D.C./Baltimore area soon. In the meantime, losing the current Battle Bunker is a huge blow to our local gaming and hobby community that is already sharply felt. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1863800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1863800.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time FW, you could not buy any of the direct online models, and to me honest the current manager is pushy and I just don't like buying from him. He was like that in the Arundil Mills store. I liked the old manger much better.

It also seems like they stopped running tournaments and any events worth going to.

The only thing it had going for it was the number of tables that actually had terrain.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1863892.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1863892.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time 40k. I do agree with the removal of Forgeworld stuff it's just a GW with more tables so it's really not worth the effort of driving to unless you live close by although that service is supposed to be returning.

I heard it was moving to Laurel, MD which would be good for Northern Virginia people since it's closer to that area.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1864369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1864369.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time GW store for me... and I enjoyed going in there when I had the chance. I always spent a couple hundred bucks on FW items when I visited and I had planned to make a run for some gaming on their tables the end of September. I guess this isn't going to happen now.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1864569.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1864569.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time DC.

That, and it's closer to me (or at least the same distance as Glen Burnie, since I'm in Columbia) so that doesn't hurt, either

Also didn't realize the employees would be out of a job, are you sure about that?
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This has been known for almost a year.
No it has not. The HQ move has been known for a year. The plan up until now was to move the Battle Bunker without closing it and that has been what the store management has been telling customers for months up until this week. The change to outright closing the Battle Bunker for an undetermined period of time is a new and for many of us, unwelcome development.

and to me honest the current manager is pushy and I just don't like buying from him. He was like that in the Arundil Mills store.
Wow, that statement is really out of date. The "current" manager as that statement puts it has been gone for months and is not the current manager. The "old" manager as that statement puts it has been back as the Bunker store manager since the other person moved to managing the recently reopened Memphis Bunker months ago.

Also didn't realize the employees would be out of a job, are you sure about that?
Quite sure.
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]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1864850.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1864850.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time 40k there, as well as my first mega battle (lots of the pictures of my Sisters around are from that day). On the other hand, going there and not being able to get FW stuff or even some less common (but not direct only!) kits was really rather off putting. Not like I am inclined to commute ~2.5 hours to get there generally... however, if they happened to have a big sale to get rid of stock or tables & terrain, I would make the trip

Hopefully the staff get new jobs pretty soon, or at least some sort of carry over position.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1864873.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1864873.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time GW. When they shut it down, there was no plan for a new store in the area, and no offers of moving the staff to another store. Just a big ole you to their staff and customers. Sorry, I mean "followers!" ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865200.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865200.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
I hope another bunker will open up soon, but the glass is half empty part of me fears it's gone forever.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865431.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865431.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
New location for the bunker = Memphis; right along side the new HQ.

While the loss of the bunker and HQ is sad I'm most disheartened by the loss of Games Day in Baltimore.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865434.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
The only reason it was where it was, is because rent was super cheap since they were renting the large office space for the HQ behind it. Now, it doesn't make any sense to stay there.

In Laurel (if they do decide to go there) they should be able to get a much larger space for less rent. They've mentioned that they think they will have up to 3 times the space they currently do.

Unfortunate that it's not going to open soon after the other closing, though... I had hoped there would be little to no down-time.
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There's one piece of real estate that makes some really, really good sense though--an old Toys R Us that only opens during the holiday season. The place, incidentally, is for lease.

http://www.loopnet.com/Listing/16282964/933-Washington-Blvd-Laurel-MD/ 39,000 square feet.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865642.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865642.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
Now the next closest one is in Arundel Mills Mall for me. Or way the hell down in Columbia off Centre Park Drive (though the Chinese place next to it is awesome).

Laurel really isn't that far from the current location. Certainly closer then Arundel Mills. And has to be better since the mall store is like the size of 2 bathroom stalls.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865695.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865695.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time . Heading there tonight actually! Although, I'm hoping to keep the riffraff out

Arundel Mill just rearranged their tables and there's usually an open one for gaming, too.
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And no, I love Columbia. I'd have moved there if the same exact house, with none of the amenities this community has, didn't cost 400k with the notorious columbia tax.

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BrassScorpion wrote: The change to outright closing the Battle Bunker for an undetermined period of time is a new and for many of us, unwelcome development.
Quite sure.


GW just squatted their battle bunker.

I wouldn't hold your breathe for it to reopen...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1865916.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
Nvs wrote:Do you go to the Centre Park location? Or is there another shop you game at? The Centre Park Drive shop is at least fairly big as far as GW stores are concerned. Bunker was only other large one that comes to mind.

Yes, I tend to make it out to the Centre Park store (Columbia) on Tuesdays, when most of the fantasy gamers try to make it out. Lately they've been pretty successfully orienting one night each week towards one of the systems, and I play fantasy

Hopefully we can get them to be able to get another table at some point! Right now it's just at 3, but has room for 4.

As to all the comments about the Bunker not re-opening- again, the ONLY communication the GW staff there have been giving is that it's moving to a location closer to DC. It could be that they've been deceived by upper management, but at least as far as the staff is concerned, that's what they're saying is happening. Anything else is just speculation from people not connected to the situation or having talked to anyone here, because that's not what ANYONE has said, as far as I know.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but them's the facts, jack!

It's unfortunate that it's going to be closed for a period, but that's the extent of it as far as anyone knows- not that they're permanently closing.
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oni wrote:I can't say I'm suprised.

New location for the bunker = Memphis; right along side the new HQ.

While the loss of the bunker and HQ is sad I'm most disheartened by the loss of Games Day in Baltimore.

I wonder if elvis played 40k

Anyway i've also heard this from LGS. And they say that is why they are understaff right now. I'm not really sure.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1866625.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1866625.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
I've been going to that store before it even had a battle bunker and was just a tiny corner in the building next to it, back in the late 90's. In recent years, I never really had time to go there and get my hobby on or game, but it was my main source of GW product, outside of bitz stores. I feel bad for the folks getting let go and "having an option" of re-applying when the new location is decided upon. Unfortunately, I don't see it being relocated any time soon either, seeing as how GW is in a cost cutting mood as of late. I guess they want to get out of that area completely, as there are quite a few options right down the road from them, in high traffic commercial areas. In that strip mall near the always busy Best Buy right down the road seems like a no brainer to me. Granted, strip malls are an endangered species in this day and age, but they'd without a doubt get a 100 times more foot traffic, just by being visible.

I used to go there because I loved the atmosphere and customer service was always top notch in my personal experiences, guess I can find a brick and mortar shop(any recommendations for the Glen Burnie area?) to take my money to, or just do the online thing and save some money!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1866698.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1866698.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time GW that they were closing the Bunker after Games Day. Real shame, though, that it'll be that long until the replacement Bunker opens (knock wood).

From a purely selfish standpoint, however, a location closer to Laurel in the I-95/Rt 1/BW Parkway corridor works better for me since I'd be able to make it over to a location in that area on a lunch break and not have to burn an hour or so of leave...

Sucks about the employees though.

Does look like Maryland's era of being the "center" (should that be centre?) of GW's presence in the States is over though. No HQ. No GD. No Grand Tournies. Shame really. Heck, with Avalon Hill and The Armory gone as well, B-more's day in the spotline for gaming's probably well in the rearview mirror.

Valete,

JohnS]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1866726.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1866726.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
The Bunker moving to Laurel does not service "Baltimore". While it will be more convenient for people in Annapolis, Columbia, Glen Burnie, southern maryland and Virginia, it will be over 90 minutes for those of us in Bel Air, Westminster, Towson, Even White Marsh and Nottingham.

They are essentially catering to the DC/Northern Virginia/Southern MD crowd, which already has alot of great venues and locales to play at, compared to the actual Baltimore area, which has 1 game store ( Games and Stuff) that has a large room.

Basically, it has killed the hobby for me. I usually spend a couple thousand on GW stuff a year, which I will probably ebay. For cheap. Keep a lookout.

The better location would have been to stay in Glen Burnie, or move to Nottingham/White Marsh and merge with the store there. That would keep the store on the 95 highway which makes commuting there easy.

But you know, GW really makes alot of dumb and bad decisions. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1866735.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1866735.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time GW stores (12 including the Bunker) within 50 miles of Columbia.

Having something in Laurel might be okay, but I stopped buying directly from GW about two price hikes ago. I guess the people that are really going to miss it are the ones that seem to spend 8 hours a day there painting/hanging out. I never got into that, I paint at home.

I am surprised the Columbia store is still open. It is is kinda out of the way, but it is better then trying to play in a Mall at Arundil Mills.

My main complaint about the stores is they close way to early. I think the one in Olney is closing around 7PM or something crazy like that.

I am not surprised that the people are being let go. They are in retail sales. GW sees them as expendable and easily replaceable.

I am very glade to hear the short bald guy is gone, I don't like pushy aggressive people especially when I am just browsing. AND NO I DON'T NEED GLUE.

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Does anyone know what is happening to all their terrain and tables?

I honestly can't see them putting it in storage or paying to ship them and I would love to see their terrain and gaming tables sold to the community at reasonable prices for once. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1867878.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1867878.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
TimW wrote:I'll miss the bunker a little bit. In my opinion it needed to be closer to DC instead of Baltimore. But thats a DC v. Baltimore thing, I guess.

Does anyone know what is happening to all their terrain and tables?

I honestly can't see them putting it in storage or paying to ship them and I would love to see their terrain and gaming tables sold to the community at reasonable prices for once.


The tables will in fact be placed in storage, those things are mad expensive. The terrain and scenery may be sold off, it's hard to say.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1868043.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1868043.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
General Hobbs wrote:

The Bunker moving to Laurel does not service "Baltimore". While it will be more convenient for people in Annapolis, Columbia, Glen Burnie, southern maryland and Virginia, it will be over 90 minutes for those of us in Bel Air, Westminster, Towson, Even White Marsh and Nottingham.

They are essentially catering to the DC/Northern Virginia/Southern MD crowd, which already has alot of great venues and locales to play at, compared to the actual Baltimore area, which has 1 game store ( Games and Stuff) that has a large room.

Basically, it has killed the hobby for me. I usually spend a couple thousand on GW stuff a year, which I will probably ebay. For cheap. Keep a lookout.

The better location would have been to stay in Glen Burnie, or move to Nottingham/White Marsh and merge with the store there. That would keep the store on the 95 highway which makes commuting there easy.

But you know, GW really makes alot of dumb and bad decisions.

Okay- in your first paragraph you list White Marsh as one of the locations out of range of the new Bunker, and then say there is 1 game store that services the Baltimore area in the second paragraph (Games and Stuff, which is in Glen Burnie) with a large room.

There are two GWs just past the northern edge of Baltimore, one IN whitemarsh, and one in owings mills. If you're north of Baltimore, and were attending the Bunker, and now list Games and Stuff as your closest alternative, you either don't know the area or are intentionally ignoring the stores that are there in order to make a point. Both of those stores have some tables to play at- but of course it's not as large as the Bunker!

I don't mind people being upset that the Bunker is moving. I just hate the hyperbole. We are Inundated with GW stores in this area, which (imho) is awesome. Many people in other areas would kill to have just one store within hours. We have a ring of them around Baltimore! Besides the two I just listed on the north edge, just past the south edge of Baltimore there is one in Arundel Mills and one in Columbia. No matter where you are in Baltimore, you have a store within 30 minutes drive.

I am also saddened that GamesDay is not here next year, the HQ is not here (although that really didn't have much effect on gaming... most people never set foot in the place) and that the Bunker is (by all accounts) moving within the state, NOT leaving. However, there is an absurdly strong GW presence in this area. The Owings Mills store in particular was just opened last year, along with one to the west in Olney. GW's presence in Maryland is not going away.

I also think you're either wrong, or intentionally ignoring the lack of options available to southern MD. In Northern Virginia and southern DC, there are a lot of options. However, there is a conspicious gap on the MD side of DC. The only real stores available from what I've found is a small independent one called Dream Wizards that is just north of DC, or trekking up to either the Columbia or Arundel Mills GWs. I'm in Columbia so that's not a problem, but from what I've seen, south of here is wide open.

It makes perfect sense to put the Bunker there, and it is NOT out of range of Baltimore for events, tournaments, and the like. For everyday / weekly gaming, there are many small GW stores- 4 right around Baltimore that I listed out above. I really don't see where anyone is coming from if they say this "kills" the hobby for them. IMHO, that's just grandstanding- if this makes you stop the hobby, then you probably had already stopped or were ready to. There are plenty of places to play in Baltimore!!!! And most of them are (for better or worse) official GW stores.
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For tournaments or large events, there are no GW stores in the Baltimore area, and the only independant store is Games and Stuff, which has a large room which can fit 20 or so tables.

A Bunker in Laurel is over an hour and a half away from people north of the city, not to mention even further away from people in Delaware, New Jersy and New York.

Dream Wizards in DC also has room for a large number of tables, and can accomodate people for large events or alot of game play.

It is far easier for people north of DC to drive around the Beltway there and reach the southern area stores then someone in the middle of Baltimore, Cecil, Harford county or the western part of the state to drive to Laurel.

GW stores also do not cater to the veterans, they cater to the recruits. If you are a veteran, they try to push you out unless you are a big spender.

GW stores are horrible places to play. Cramped, small tables, lots of little kids. The Bunker was a refreshing place to enjoy the hobby and meet with the local gamers. That will be gone once it is in Laurel.

A Bunker in Glen Burnie is only 45 minutes, or less from DC. It would be central to most of Maryland, the north and the south. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1868843.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1868843.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time DC.

Heck, it's 30 minutes to get there for me, and I'm in Columbia.

It's true, it will be a bit of a drive for people north of Baltimore if it goes to Laurel, but it's worth it. On the other hand, I envy you (if you're up there, not sure) because you're closer to Mikhaila's excellent store in Media, PA. It takes me 2 hours to get there (going pretty fast) but he's got a separate bunker with tons of tables, and a bunch of great gamers.

If I were you, and you were really wanting to go to a place with lots of tables, that'd be the place.

My point is that, the Bunker will still be close enough to go to for large events, if not for weekly gaming. It's a very small minority of people who have an actual GW Battle Bunker close enough to go to on a weeknight. Having it still in your state is, imho, still excellent.

Just looking at your post, I don't get it- of course moving the Bunker slightly south makes it farther from Delaware, NJ, and NY. But not by much, and if you're driving from NY anyway, you can make it to Laurel.

It does, however, make it closer for people in Northern Virginia (big gaming area, iron fist league, etc) and D.C. If it's there, people from all over MD should be able to make it out for weekend events.

Nothing to cry foul over... Glen Burnie is not central at all, and this location, imho, makes a lot more sense in the big picture of things.
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-Tim]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1868936.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1868936.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
I would love to buy some terrain though if they are getting rid of it at an affordable price...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1868944.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1868944.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
Games and Comics and Stuff
7476 Baltimore Annapolis Boulevard
Glen Burnie, MD 21061
410.863.7418]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1869164.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1869164.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
RiTides wrote:
It's true, it will be a bit of a drive for people north of Baltimore if it goes to Laurel, but it's worth it.


Laurel is never worth it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1869586.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1869586.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
It takes me about an hour and 15-20 minutes to drive to DC, with the Bunker on the way. The Bunker is 45 minutes from where I am from.

Taking 95, it takes about 45 minutes to get to DC from GB.

As I stated before, if they wanted to service the DC community, they should have made a DC Bunker and kept the Baltimore one where it is central. The Bunker is right off 95, and also 695, making it easy to get to for people north of the city, and also for people coming up 97 from Annapolis etc.

Showcase is about an hour and a half from me....not close at all.

Laurel is never worth it as someone else has said.

In any event, I've been informed by a credible source there will not be a new Maryland Bunker in any form, so this is all a moot point.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1870361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1870361.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
vonjankmon wrote:Games and Stuff is in Glen Burnie also and has a whole top floor with tables for gaming for folks in the Baltimore area. I have gamed there a few times.

Games and Comics and Stuff
7476 Baltimore Annapolis Boulevard
Glen Burnie, MD 21061
410.863.7418


Awesome, I'll probably make that my main provider for my plastic crack addiction. And I had thought this place went out of business years ago, its near the comic book shop isn't it?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1870375.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1870375.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
Seriously, I would take these kinds of threads with a giant grain of salt. It frustrates me that the same people post "gloom and doom" about GW's presence in MD all the time.

Previously, there was another thread about how all the small GW stores in MD were empty. The one I frequent in Columbia is booming, with one of the regulars organizing a fantasy escalation league that about 10 of us will be using to start new fantasy armies, and purchase them from the store to support where we play. It's all what you make of it, man!
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I could be wrong, of course, but I'd like to give the guys at the Bunker the benefit of the doubt. Maybe a decision was made above their heads, but as far as the staff / manager there knew, they were planning to move it, not take it out entirely.
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RiTides wrote:Hmm... what happened to them actively searching for a new location



Don't want to really reveal too much but apparently that never ended up happening.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871128.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871128.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time GW is free to change their minds at any point as they clearly have already done regarding moving the Battle Buniker and keeping it open till the move. In any case I would be cautious about "creible sources" and speculation posted here in responses.

As for Games And Stuff in Glen Burnie, I have heard talk from some of the Bunker regulars about spending more time there now while other regulars are relocating to some of the smaller area stores. I already split my time between smaller stores and the Bunker, but it was nice knowing the Bunker was there when more elbow room was needed for large projects or more table space was needed for large events. Hopefully GW will maintain its desire to have a new Battle Bunker between D.C. and Baltimore and within a year we'll have another one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871427.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871427.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
BrassScorpion wrote:Wow, that statement is really out of date. The "current" manager as that statement puts it has been gone for months and is not the current manager. The "old" manager as that statement puts it has been back as the Bunker store manager since the other person moved to managing the recently reopened Memphis Bunker months ago.



Whoa, whoa, Brett is back? You have me confused here. Current manager short and bald with goatee or tall with thick rimmed glasses.

Cause short and bald is a good salesman, unfortunately that also makes him reeaalllllly pushy when it comes to getting a sale made.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871500.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871500.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time GW in Springfield to my recollection drives from MD, and is a repeated Mgr of the Year. Furthermore, his is one of the only stores grossing high enough and not a bunker to retain a full staff instead of getting hoodwinked down to 1-man.

There's long been talk of him "earning" a Bunker of his own to run, and having it closer to his actual home would be congruent with that.

Guess we'll see ... pure guesswork on my part, but based off observation/discussion w/ people who would be able to do more than just my guessing.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871502.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871502.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
Whoa, whoa, Brett is back? You have me confused here. Current manager short and bald with goatee or tall with thick rimmed glasses. Cause short and bald is a good salesman, unfortunately that also makes him reeaalllllly pushy when it comes to getting a sale made.
Again, that is months out of date. Brett has been long gone, his replacement went to an HQ job in the back last year, then "short and bald" took over the Bunker, then he left for Memphis and Brett's original replacement was again put back as manager of the Bunker. I visit the store nearly every week, sometimes more than once a week, including the day they announced the closing. All the information I have posted here is up to date and accurate.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871689.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871689.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
BrassScorpion wrote:
Whoa, whoa, Brett is back? You have me confused here. Current manager short and bald with goatee or tall with thick rimmed glasses. Cause short and bald is a good salesman, unfortunately that also makes him reeaalllllly pushy when it comes to getting a sale made.
Again, that is months out of date. Brett has been long gone, his replacement went to an HQ job in the back last year, then "short and bald" took over the Bunker, then he left for Memphis and Brett's original replacement was again put back as manager of the Bunker. I visit the store nearly every week, sometimes more than once a week, including the day they announced the closing. All the information I have posted here is up to date and accurate.


Hey now, no reason to get snippy, I wasn't arguing with you; I haven't been there in ages. Last time I was there, it was the Arundel Mills manager who was there, and I know that that info is out of date. I was just curious because I thought Brett was an awesome manager, and I had a LONG stretch between visits before Brett.

I'm going to have to drop by later today and see if I've ever met who's currently running it ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871792.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871792.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
I thought Brett was an awesome manager
Indeed he was.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871800.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871800.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time

(I admit I'm a tad biased here, though)
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The GW management cycle at the Bunker goes like this ( now, for a time there was a store manager and a bunker manager, so I may be off a little bit):

John, Sean F., Tom G/Sean S., Brien D., Joe N. ( for a week or two), Jeff B., Brett, Tom G. again, Scott W. ( short and baldy), Tom G. for the last time.

The Bunker was at its best when it had Tom as the manager, and Sean S. running the events. I was there every weekend, and sometimes during the week and it was a 45 minute drive for me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871939.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1871939.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
BrassScorpion wrote:The information I stated in my original post that began this thread comes directly from the management and employees of the store. Obviously anything is possible and GW is free to change their minds at any point as they clearly have already done regarding moving the Battle Buniker and keeping it open till the move. In any case I would be cautious about "creible sources" and speculation posted here in responses.


It's possible we have the same sources but what I heard comes from about a few days ago (however it may be tainted by justified bitterness of certain people). Either way it's pretty much up in the air at this point sadly.

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scooter wrote:update for the bunker hunt Ed is staying in the Maryland area to just look for a location for the new battle bunker in Maryland. Will he find one I think so the problem is it will be in the south. I will not drive over a hour to play at a GW so that will suck for me. But we will see!!!


How south is south? Glen Burnie is only about 50 minutes from the Springfield, VA store if the traffic isn't bad.

I agree that an hour to drive isn't really worth it which sucks for the people that are current customers of the bunker...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1872039.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1872039.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time GW store here in lynnwood WA has gone down the tubes too. They moved, and they aren't open mondays/tuesdays (I didn't check if the door was locked on tuesday but the lights looked like they were off.)

I bet its a one man store now. Some corporate exec. looking for brownie points. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1872463.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1872463.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
scooter wrote:update for the bunker hunt Ed is staying in the Maryland area to just look for a location for the new battle bunker in Maryland. Will he find one I think so the problem is it will be in the south. I will not drive over a hour to play at a GW so that will suck for me. But we will see!!!


There's no shortage of property for rent in Maryland. Retail space seems a little thinner than office space, but it's certainly available if they look. I would assume for a 'Bunker' they need a lot of square footage, which obviously negates a lot of the 'strip mall' options.

On the other hand, do they feel the need to put it in a 'commercial' area or is 'light industrial park' still considered a valid option? I think the old Bunker is in a light industrial park, but that because it was attached to the HQ, right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1872632.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1872632.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
You know who's a good manager? Tony at the Columbia store


Dude, are you for real? I think he is the pushiest GW manager I have ever met. I avoid Columbia like the plague just because of him.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1873240.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1873240.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
It may have gotten better, but it always seemed emptied when I went. I did like that it was roomier then most stores. I just wish they would add one more table.

The only real thing I will miss from the bunker is the number of tables and higher quality tables and terrain. Games and Stuff has decent terrain, but since they also do other events they can't have dedicated ones. The terrain at Dream Wizards is just bad. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1873312.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1873312.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
Makov wrote:
You know who's a good manager? Tony at the Columbia store


Dude, are you for real? I think he is the pushiest GW manager I have ever met. I avoid Columbia like the plague just because of him.

Hmm, maybe you just need to get to know him? I think I might've had that impression at first, too, but he's not pushy at all now- at least not with any of the fantasy regulars that are coming out on Tuesdays (that I've seen). We're doing our part to try to support where we play, and that seems to be good enough for him. He also has help now, a guy named Matt, who is even less pushy imho. Give it another try!

Dakka Dan wrote:The last time was in the columbia store was to buy A blood angels squad for my friend when they first came out.

It may have gotten better, but it always seemed emptied when I went. I did like that it was roomier then most stores. I just wish they would add one more table.

They Need another table. They've brought it up with upper management or wherever was needed, but it's not a sure thing. It's been packed lately, the fantasy scene really picked up with the new rulebook, and there have been a ton of kiddos playing 40k- luckily school starts this week and I'm thinking some of them will be gone, at least for school nights .

Overall, I've been really pleased with it. Mostly since there's a great group of mature fantasy gamers going there regularly, that aren't hyper-competitive... unlike the scene up in the Bunker area! (Not everybody, of course, but a lot of the fantasy regulars up there)
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vonjankmon wrote:Games and Stuff is in Glen Burnie also and has a whole top floor with tables for gaming for folks in the Baltimore area. I have gamed there a few times.

Games and Comics and Stuff
7476 Baltimore Annapolis Boulevard
Glen Burnie, MD 21061
410.863.7418


That store doesn't (or didn't the last time I was in that part of town) carry GW.

It's a shame they're closing the bunker, but there is a plethora of stores that serve the area, both Independent and GW.

I haven't been to the bunker in a very long time (since well before they stopped carrying FW) and I've been barking at my stores manager to keep barking at his higher ups to allow our store to order directly from FW for the community (which I believe that the bunker was doing on a monthly-ish basis)

BTW: the store I'm referring to is Westminster in the Town Mall of Westminster Maryland. We have a great community if someone is looking for a new store.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1873990.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1873990.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
As far as I know, GW won't let their stores carry FW. Sorry.

Plethora of stores????? Around Baltimore, with gaming area and/or GW product...there's Games and Stuff.....Yorkridge, White Marsh, Columbia, Arundel Mills, Chuck's Comics ( just started carrying, and his store is small, don't know about the gaming space.) Collector's Corner ( dunno about the gaming space, and it is in Dundalk)......That's not a plethora. You can go to the GW stores and be cramped and play with mouth breathers and have the Redshirts pestering you to buy stuff, or you can go to GnS, which is not a bad thing....Not really a plethora....

But none of these places replaces the Bunker. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1874309.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1874309.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time DC Metro area with gaming locations. I'm NOVA instead of MD, but I cponsider having that many possible gaming locations within an hours drive to be great. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1874358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1874358.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
don_mondo wrote:You list 6 locations and that's not a 'plethora'? We're spoiled here in the DC Metro area with gaming locations. I'm NOVA instead of MD, but I cponsider having that many possible gaming locations within an hours drive to be great.


Preach on, Brother Don! I grew up with one gaming store about an hour away, and nothing else. And that's in the pre-Internets era too... So anything you wanted to get, you had to go to get.

Now, NOVA seems to be better served with largish independent stores than MD is, but still... 6 gaming stores in the relatively local area is pretty solid IMHO.

Valete,

JohnS]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1874387.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1874387.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
Admittedly, less people live out there but come on, we've got lots of GWs around Baltimore! Many cities don't have any at all, let alone 4 right around the city, and a well-sized independent store to boot.

I do hope for another great independent store to open up, but by working out a night where we all meet up at the Columbia store, it's been filling that role just fine.
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Nvs wrote:The eastern shore store was what first got me into 40k. They had a Games Workshop right on the main drive in Ocean City on 118th street. Was only open for 1 year I think.
A close friend of mine ran that Ocean City store. It was only ever meant to be there for that one year as a recruitment tool for the hobby that one summer. He has told me some entertaining stories about that store. Most interesting, you were the exception not the rule because that store was totally dead most of the time. Apparently, when people take their kids to the beach in the summer and pay top dollar at hotels in-season for doing so, they want to spend their time at the beach and not at a game store. Needless to say, GW realized their mistake and never tried that again, at least not in Maryland.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1874580.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1874580.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time GW left ironically) we used for 5-10years.

Parents were happy to see us walk there. It meant they didn't need to watch us at the boardwalk throwing quarters into machines for hours on end.

And back then you didn't need a full time job to play the hobby either. I'm surprised how many parents actually buy their kids the stuff now. Or maybe it's just $1 back then is worth $5 today.

/shrug.

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Nvs wrote:Heh, my parents own a place on 120th. The store replaced a bait and tackle shop (which reopened after GW left ironically) we used for 5-10years.

Parents were happy to see us walk there. It meant they didn't need to watch us at the boardwalk throwing quarters into machines for hours on end.

And back then you didn't need a full time job to play the hobby either. I'm surprised how many parents actually buy their kids the stuff now. Or maybe it's just $1 back then is worth $5 today.

/shrug.



I had to get a job to start up the hobby... I was 13 years old and refereeing hockey and soccer to feed my hobby. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1875103.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1875103.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
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GW store's don't count for that plethora. Sorry, meant to imply that in the post.

As I said elsewhere.....at a normal GW store you have a manager and maybe a redshirt pushing product on you ( No, I don' want to buy Uruk Hai, no one plays LOTR), and also trying to push you out when you stop buying. There's hardly any space to game, or paint, and you are in a cramped space with a bunch of mouthbreathers and newbs.

The Bunker, and most game stores I have been to, have a nice open space, tables for painting, and you can chill and hang out.

I was once done painting, and had started assembling models and was talking about movies with someone else, and told to leave a store so someone else could paint. If I hadn't opened the models already, they would have been returned.
Another time I was playing a game, and having a good time, when a redshirt told us to pack up, some other people were coming to play.

So, give me the Bunker or a good gaming store any day of the week.....

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General Hobbs wrote:

GW store's don't count for that plethora. Sorry, meant to imply that in the post.

As I said elsewhere.....at a normal GW store you have a manager and maybe a redshirt pushing product on you ( No, I don' want to buy Uruk Hai, no one plays LOTR), and also trying to push you out when you stop buying. There's hardly any space to game, or paint, and you are in a cramped space with a bunch of mouthbreathers and newbs.

The Bunker, and most game stores I have been to, have a nice open space, tables for painting, and you can chill and hang out.

I was once done painting, and had started assembling models and was talking about movies with someone else, and told to leave a store so someone else could paint. If I hadn't opened the models already, they would have been returned.
Another time I was playing a game, and having a good time, when a redshirt told us to pack up, some other people were coming to play.

So, give me the Bunker or a good gaming store any day of the week.....



Honestly, based on what I've read in this thread from you, maybe you're not being asked to clear out because of why you think you've been asked to clear out.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1875872.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1875872.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
I was once done painting, and had started assembling models and was talking about movies with someone else, and told to leave a store so someone else could paint. If I hadn't opened the models already, they would have been returned.
In the smaller GW stores there is very limited hobby space. If someone is sitting at the hobby/painting bar just chatting and another customer needs the spot to actually work on their models, it is common practice for the GW store staff to request the seat for the customer looking for the space for actual hobby work. I've never had any problem with that policy, it seems perfectly reasonable to me. I've been the beneficiary of it when needed and I've gladly given up space to others who needed it if I wasn't actively "hobbying". That is what the space is intended for after all, so of course customers needing it for the intended purpose get priority.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1876959.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1876959.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
I was working on models. But they wanted to clear the space for little Timmy.

Basically a veteran being pushed out for a recruit. Which is why I don't game at the GW stores.....

@Rii I have no desire to go to Columbia. High crime, nazi-like police...no thanks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1879561.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1879561.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
The only real thing I will miss from the bunker is the number of tables and higher quality tables and terrain. Games and Stuff has decent terrain, but since they also do other events they can't have dedicated ones. The terrain at Dream Wizards is just bad.


Funny you say that Ed the store owner of games and stuff has put some tables up there. That said these tables will be for open war hammer and wear machine games. On Mondays and Tuesdays after the bunker goes away that’s were we will be. we= about 20 to 10 people. Your more then welcome to join us we paint and talk mostly so it's a really laid back group.

How south is south? Glen Burnie is only about 50 minutes from the Springfield, VA store if the traffic isn't bad.


The last I've heard is as close a laurel and far away as college park.
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scooter wrote:
The last I've heard is as close a laurel and far away as college park.

College Park would be a _very_ good place for it. Metro stop close by, active group of players at U of MD, centralized location near the 95/495 junction (just a bit northeast of DC), and I don't believe property pricing is too bad. Disclaimer: I work next door in Greenbelt.

I play at Dream Wizards in Rockville (more or less on the way home), and whomever said their terrain is bad is pretty much correct - it's not horrible stuff in terms of construction, but there aren't enough decent small pieces. There guys there also overload the tables with it (literally 6d3 of big terrain pieces spread out on the 6x4 table). Maybe I'll tell my next opponent that we're doing d2 terrain per sixth of the table...

Definitely keep us updated on what you hear!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883477.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883477.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883496.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883496.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time GW store worldwide in 2007-2008 had already stopped spending much time there by the time Scott took over. I had a long talk with Tom about the mistakes that were made toward the end of his run as manager before Scott took over, but unfortunately there won't be a chance to correct those now that GW has given up on the store entirely. It's a shame because I was genuinely set to give it another chance and try to rebuild what we once had there from around 2006-2008 and I had recently started going back there a bit more often. It's amazing to me that the store and community could go from being one of GW's best just a few years ago to what it is now and that they'd give up on it so quickly. Those of us who helped build it to what it was four years ago are deeply saddened to see the turn of events of the past two years. I will miss Tom and the other staff members and certain members of the community, small as it is these days, that I could count on seeing when I stopped by there on certain days.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883521.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883521.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
erwos wrote:I play at Dream Wizards in Rockville (more or less on the way home), and whomever said their terrain is bad is pretty much correct - it's not horrible stuff in terms of construction, but there aren't enough decent small pieces. There guys there also overload the tables with it (literally 6d3 of big terrain pieces spread out on the 6x4 table). Maybe I'll tell my next opponent that we're doing d2 terrain per sixth of the table...

The biggest issue at DW is that they have nothing but giant blob terrain (huge rocks, odd buildings, hills, junk, etc.) and seem to have lost or destroyed all their trees. I'm going to bring my own buildings/hills/trees and such from now on just because I'm tired of buildings that are the wrong scale and bizarre jumbles of foam.

I'm really disappointed that the Bunker won't be moving and setting up closer to DC. When I spoke with Tom a couple months back that was the plan as he understood it. I even sent them a couple of good locations down here in Montgomery County. Not that I expected them to come set up between Bethesda and Gaithersburg, but I could hope. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883761.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883761.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883774.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883774.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time 40k terrain there.

Just played at Dream Wizards on Saturday for the Fantasy 'Ard Boyz, and they had great terrain out for it. I'm not sure if they got new terrain or what, but it worked well imho. Usually when I've gone by there aren't any fantasy games going, though, just lots of RPGs, some warmachine (which is awesome that they have such a concentration of those players there) and 40k. It sounds like on their warhammer night they get more fantasy players out there, though.
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Sanguinary Dan wrote:
erwos wrote:I play at Dream Wizards in Rockville (more or less on the way home), and whomever said their terrain is bad is pretty much correct - it's not horrible stuff in terms of construction, but there aren't enough decent small pieces. There guys there also overload the tables with it (literally 6d3 of big terrain pieces spread out on the 6x4 table). Maybe I'll tell my next opponent that we're doing d2 terrain per sixth of the table...

The biggest issue at DW is that they have nothing but giant blob terrain (huge rocks, odd buildings, hills, junk, etc.) and seem to have lost or destroyed all their trees. I'm going to bring my own buildings/hills/trees and such from now on just because I'm tired of buildings that are the wrong scale and bizarre jumbles of foam.

That is an excellent summary of the problem. They really need to do a terrain building event and have some of the regulars build cheap buildings and trees bases. If you wind up starting a game late, you get doubly screwed, because all of the decent stuff has already been taken.

I generally play on Thursday night... IRON WARRIORS! (Actually, I may have my new IG army set to go this Thursday evening, PM me if you want a game.)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883803.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1883803.page GMT Re:Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
The numbers have always been cooked at certain stores. For example, the Chicago Bunker would mysteriusly sell 100 of a product the day before a certain date, whenever there was a contest between stores.

The Baltimore Bunker padded its numbers with employee purchases, and FW sales that other stores did not have.

I also understand that a certain manager or two spent alot of their income at the store trying to raise its numbers on the sales sheets.

You'd get thinks like 10 people walking in to play 40K and being marked down as attending for a LOTR event, because of the LOTR push....If no one showed up for that event, heads would roll, so lies were made.

Staff also is an issue. I'd come in for a tournament and it would be the same 6 people. For a 40K tournament. Finally towards the end of Tom's second run people started coming back to events. You had to have staff who promoted events and got people to come back in.

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erwos wrote:
scooter wrote:
The last I've heard is as close a laurel and far away as college park.

College Park would be a _very_ good place for it. Metro stop close by, active group of players at U of MD, centralized location near the 95/495 junction (just a bit northeast of DC), and I don't believe property pricing is too bad. Disclaimer: I work next door in Greenbelt.

I play at Dream Wizards in Rockville (more or less on the way home), and whomever said their terrain is bad is pretty much correct - it's not horrible stuff in terms of construction, but there aren't enough decent small pieces. There guys there also overload the tables with it (literally 6d3 of big terrain pieces spread out on the 6x4 table). Maybe I'll tell my next opponent that we're doing d2 terrain per sixth of the table...

Definitely keep us updated on what you hear!


There used to be a GW store in College Park. Right next to the campus over in the stripmall where Marathon Deli is. I used to go there back in the early '90s. There was also a store in the Laurel Mall around the same time (or a bit later? I forget). Both of 'em long since closed, and neither one had any gaming room that I can recall. But man, the Laurel store had some great bits sales back in the day... I remember the "$.50 box", where every bit in the box was $.50. I bought about 10 complete Vincent Black Shadow bikes for $1 each... 50 cents for the body. 50 cents for the handlebars...

Pity, at the time, I was a starving college student and had no real money.

Valete,

JohnS ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1888930.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1888930.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time GW and Warhammer back around 1989. The College Park store opened in 1990, I still have my T-shirt from the grand opening. I'm also still friends with some of the people who worked at the College Park store all these years later. One of them even now works for the design studio. When GW closed all of its US stores for a couple years in the mid-1990s while reformulating their retail business strategy, both of those stores were part of that closure. I went to College Park and had lived on the South Hill, but had graduated by the time GW opened a store there. I enjoyed having an excuse to go back to "the strip" on Route 1. The space where the College Park store existed was Steeley's Style Shop during my college days down there. It was the shop where the AFROTC cadets got their uniforms altered.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1888971.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1888971.page GMT Baltimore Battle Bunker closing September 19, new location undetermined at this time
Didn't know about the store in College Park, though. Man, that would have been nice back when I was there!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1893870.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313078/1893870.page GMT