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<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/93.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread 40k thread I'd like to start the Fantasy beat this unit thread

the rules
-Post a unit that you believe is statistically capable of beating the previous posts more than 50% of the time
-Assume normal set up (I.E. 24" apart)
-your unit should not be more than a few points over that of the previous. (kudos for lower points)

I'll start

Slann [500] [Focused rumination, mastery of focus, higher state, Becalming, cupped hands, Obsidian amulet]
12 Temple Guard [252] [Full command, Ruby Ring of Ruin]

Total: 752]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1871251.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1871251.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1871440.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1871440.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Red_Zeke wrote:This could get ugly... what lore is that Slann?

Fire for fairness. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1871988.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1871988.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread 475
20 pheonix guard
300

775]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872006.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872006.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

ShivanAngel wrote:Teclis with purple sun
475
20 pheonix guard
300

775

Grey Seer with Plauge Lore, 50 Storm Vermin, Plague Mortar

650 Points]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872049.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872049.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
Plague Priest
Plague Furnace
Dispel Scroll
310

45 Plague monks
Full Command
Grand Banner
370

680 total]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872052.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872052.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
black orc warboss
wyven
shaga's screamin sword
395

60 night goblins
spears
full command
3 fanatics
336

731
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Will add specific points when I can check later...
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Your post has to beat the previous post, not the OP!!
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AtraAngelis wrote:some of you guys are not playing by the rules..

Your post has to beat the previous post, not the OP!!

This and the fact that they still loose. The slann is ethreal, and the TG can still attack with normal attacks. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872695.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872695.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872743.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872743.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Casper wrote:...or are we assuming everything goes to plan?

I hope not, because then Infernal Gateway Sorcerers just auto-win.

black orc warboss
wyven
shaga's screamin sword
395

60 night goblins
spears
full command
3 fanatics
336

731

Tyrant with Thundermace 255
Butcher(For +1T and Regen Buffs) 130
10xOgre Bulls 350

730 Points]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872772.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1872772.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

tzeentchling9
Tyrant with Thundermace 255
Butcher(For +1T and Regen Buffs) 130
10xOgre Bulls 350

730 Points

i think fate weaver could do it single handed, 20 inch move can keep him out of charge range while within magic range, just depends if he blows himself up as wizards do nowadays, but can re roll one D6 a turn "hmm double six i'll reroll one and live!!"

asuming 7 magic dice a turn it'll take a while, but it will happen

now for spells

left head
lore of tzeentch
pha's protection
wind blast
dwellers below
seering doom

right head
lore of tzeentch
purple sun
fire ball
pit of shades
amber spear
cost 625

cue shooty list or some funky imune to magic]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1944056.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1944056.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
Skaven hero (BSB) 70
250 slaves 500

570]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1944242.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1944242.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1944542.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1944542.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

gendoikari87 wrote:how do you fit a unit of 250 clanrats on the board?

up to ninty can make one rank on a 6 foot wide board and up to 15 ranks can fit in 12 inch deployment so it's be anywhere from 90 x 3 to 17 x 15 with a few empty slots at the back

also you need some slings on that unit or a flyer should just dance around them, so an extra 175 points]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1945126.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1945126.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

3-4 turns of a Str3, killing blow pieplate and then its combat with S, T and W of 5 and Fear causing.

only problem is blowing up

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3 S5 WS5 I5 Attacks followed by 3 more at WS3 I2, +3 armor, and the Rhinox can only hit him on 6s.

117 Points

EDIT: Squig only has 3 attacks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1953525.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1953525.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
Stompy stompy.

914 points. (yes I do field this!)

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Leadbelchers do.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1956411.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1956411.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1956820.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1956820.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread IGs is 3-16.

Ignoring that though:

40xChaos Chosen with Mark of Tzeentch, Halberds, Full Command, Terror Banner, Champ has Favor of the Gods.

Causes Terror(Fear tests for IGs), Extremely good chance of having +3 ward and stubborn(if the don't have it, then they will have either +1S or +1A instead, still good VS IGs).

865 Points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1956821.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1956821.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
2 giants, 450 points.

hoping for Jump up and down

which combined with Tstomp will net 6d6 Str6 hits.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1956945.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1956945.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
49 VC Crypt Ghouls+Ghast

The giants might take a few ghouls with them, but they will fall to the tons of poisoned attacks.

408 Points]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1957077.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1957077.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread Blood Cleaver-unsaved wound caused=regen wound
Wyrdstone Necklace-5+ ward save
Crown of command-Stubborn
Luck Gnoblar

Best of all Immune to Poison, take that Ghouls!

-295]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1957119.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1957119.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
Black Dragon
Crimson Death
Pendant
Regen Armor

nom nom nom nom]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1957142.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1957142.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
Once per game, 3D6 S5 vomits ignoring your armour.

BARF!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1958360.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1958360.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread -MRoSmiting
-RoBurning
125

5 attacks, each attack = d6 wounds, flaming

Now, surviving anything else would be a task :/]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1959002.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1959002.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

LucasLAD wrote:Dragon Slayer
-MRoSmiting
-RoBurning
125

5 attacks, each attack = d6 wounds, flaming

Now, surviving anything else would be a task :/

That model would only have 3 attacks...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1959594.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1959594.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1959807.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1959807.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread CC), Glittering scales(LA, -1 to be hit in CC), Dragonbane gem, and a CLS(+1 WS, +1I, and AP)

273 points

WS7 and your at -2 to hit him in CC and he has 2+ ward against the slayer's attacks]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1959922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1959922.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Mr Mystery wrote:4 at the most if you made him a Daemonslayer.

Yea, I'm pretty ashamed now

still, he'd probably put a good beating down

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Grey Templar wrote:Ogre Tyrant(Greyback pelt(-1 to be hit in CC), Glittering scales(LA, -1 to be hit in CC), Dragonbane gem, and a CLS(+1 WS, +1I, and AP)

273 points

WS7 and your at -2 to hit him in CC and he has 2+ ward against the slayer's attacks

Throgg the Troll King!

4 T5 wounds with mutant regeneration. Copious Vomit does d6 S5 hits and an additional 2d6 hits once per game.

175 Points]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1963602.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1963602.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1964343.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1964343.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
I win.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1965254.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1965254.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1965293.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1965293.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread GW with D3 wounds), Talisman of Endurance(4+ ward), potion of Health(regain d3 wounds), HA, and luck Gnoblar(reroll 1 save, one use)

5+ armor, 4+ ward.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1965470.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1965470.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Seriously though, that Tyrant has 130 points of magic items.

Chaos Lord w/Mark of Khorne, Chaos Runeshield, Glave of Putrification, Dawnstone, Juggernaught

6 S5 attacks that make you go to S2 and T2 for the game if one goes through, MWs are mundane, and a +1 re-rollable armor save.

375 Points]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1967302.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1967302.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
i used the wrong talisman. it should be the 5+ ward.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1969139.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1969139.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Grey Templar wrote:i count 90 points.

i used the wrong talisman. it should be the 5+ ward.

That comes to 115 points.

Tenderizer = 25 Gnoblars
Healing potion(d6 wounds actually) = 17.5 Gnoblars
Talisman of Endurance(+5 ward) = 15 Gnoblars

Even if you use the wyrdstone necklace(10 Gnoblars) for the +5 ward, that is still 5 points too many.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1969424.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1969424.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1969465.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1969465.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
I win.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1969977.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1969977.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1970170.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1970170.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1970504.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1970504.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1971194.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1971194.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Tzeentchling9 wrote:Well, he gives the Rat Ogres either +1A, Poisoned Attacks, or Regeneration. The ROgres have 3 S5 attacks(+Frenzy) at I4 each though. They should be able to put in some hurt before the Rhinox Riders can even fight.

Rhinoxs are Str and T5, have 5 wounds and do D3 impact hits when charging over 7"

they also cause Terror so that means a Ld test at the start of each round to see if you are at WS1.

you will go first, but will have to get 5 wounds past a 4+ armor save(Which might be 3+ if the got HA)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1971210.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1971210.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
20xWarriors of Chaos
Halberds, Mark of Khorne, Full Command, Razor Banner
21 WS5 S5 armor piercing attacks.

425 Points]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1987884.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1987884.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
10x Archers, Hawk Eye: 120pts

10x Archers, Hawk Eye: 120pts

Total: 360pts

Moves faster than Warriors Of Chaos and would kill them eventualy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1987942.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/1987942.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
Pew, pew, smash

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I'm not sure but I think it would work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2090357.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2090357.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ASF BSB. Asur get stabbed to bits for half the point cost of that unit and they fear not the Purple Sun.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2090425.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2090425.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread 10x Archers
9x Archers
319pts

Shoot, Shoot, Dead

Can't get to them all before they shoot you to pieces]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2090824.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2090824.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread MoT and Blasted Standard.

260 pts.

with a 2+ armor and 4+ ward they will take the fire with no damage and procede to eat each unit one by one.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2090858.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2090858.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2090979.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2090979.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2091787.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2091787.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
Besides, I thought this was a single unit vs unit thread?

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Buffs himself every turn with +1 T, can fire off Bangstick and Toothcracker each turn. Braingobbler will also be used to panic skinks off the board.

also immune to poisen.

base T5]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2092484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2092484.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
Edit: Maybe not, though. That slaughtermaster sure is tough.

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Grey Templar wrote:Ogre Slaughtermaster with Talisman of preservation(4+ward), Potion of Healing, and Bangstick(bound spell lvl3, 24" range, D6 Str4 hits)

Buffs himself every turn with +1 T, can fire off Bangstick and Toothcracker each turn. Braingobbler will also be used to panic skinks off the board.

also immune to poisen.

base T5

Ogre Tyrant w/Greedy Fist, Sword of Strife, Wyrdstone Necklace, Other Trickster's Shard Heavy Armor, Ironfist
311 Points

7 S5 attacks, re-roll successful wards, and every hit means -1 Wizard Level. 5 Toughness 5 wounds with +3 armor and +5 ward in CC.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2093859.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2093859.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2094006.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2094006.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Kirbinator wrote:They don't? Ogres just get more awesome the more I learn!

Butchers and Slaughtermasters only. it's because they eat all sorts of terrible things. would be nice if it was all ogres

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WS7, S5, A4, ethereal and single wound slays models outright regardless of number of wounds.

350ish (can't remember point cost for spectral form)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2094909.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2094909.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2095353.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2095353.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Red_Zeke wrote:Thought you couldn't take magic items if you took spectral form...

The army book and FAQ seem to agree with you.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2095388.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2095388.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097379.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097379.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097614.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097614.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

HoverBoy wrote:Yay oldblood still rules

Not for long

Chaos Lord
Crimson Armor of Dhagon(Yeah, I'm sure I'm spelling it wrong), Axe of Khorne, Other Trickster's Shard, Shield, Barded Chaos Steed

I believe that comes to 344 Points. +1 armor save, Immune to KB and wounds are not multiplied, 5 S6 attacks with KB, and re-roll successful wards.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097759.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097759.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097810.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097810.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

HoverBoy wrote:And for only 60 pts more, well done

Is that too much? I couldn't find anything else that could really take it. Oldbloods are such a pain at their cast because of their great stats and really high scaly skin. This sucker cost me a 1k tournament:

OldBlood
Armor of Destiny, Dawnstone, Burning Blade, Shield

Re-rollable +1 armor save and +4 ward. I murdered the rest of his army, but there was nothing I could do to kill that SoaB out of the watch-tower.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097872.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097872.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097899.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2097899.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
Dreadlord - Pendant of khaeleth, heavy armor, sea dragon cloak, enchanted shield, dawnstone, crimson death.
248 pts

2+ armor save with rerolls, reverse ward save, and 4 S6 attacks with hatred.

EDIT: Could put him on a cold one, drop the enchanted shield, take a regular shield and take the other trickster's shard, just for good measure.

Then it's 1+ rerollable armor save, reverse ward, 4 S6 attacks and 1 S4 attack, forcing rerolls on successful ward saves.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2100799.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2100799.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread LD 10 steadfast.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2100843.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2100843.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2100855.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2100855.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread LD tests on you tho since you have no ranks, at LD 10 that would be 2 fails for 12 combat phases, unless you manage to never fail to wound with all your attacks which with 4 3+/2+ and 1 3+/3+ attacks is on average not guaranteed, especially if i drop one slave for a musician

.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2100862.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2100862.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2100865.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2100865.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread Instead i put forward a cheiftain BSB with war banner and 70 slaves (still in horde) and a musician=247pts
If all your attacks kill we end up even but i have a musician

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you hit me on 6s(WS10), wound on 6s and must reroll those 6s.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2101472.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2101472.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2101505.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2101505.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

HoverBoy wrote:Wich dosen't change the fact i win by static and make you take tests over and over.

There is no way you are winning on static alone. The Tyrant has 6 S5 attacks at WS10 and a stomp a S5. You only have 3 ranks and there is no freaking way you are causing wounds needing 5s to hit, 6s to wound, and re-roll successful wounds.

Although that Tyrant currently has 15 points too many in magic items, and the worst you can hit on without modifiers is 5s(not 6s). Just lose the wyrdstone necklace and it's fine.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2101795.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2101795.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

didn't have my BRB with me.

He is also immune to psycology(Stupidity) BTW]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2102077.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2102077.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Tzeentchling9 wrote:There is no way you are winning on static alone. The Tyrant has 6 S5 attacks at WS10 and a stomp a S5. You only have 3 ranks and there is no freaking way you are causing wounds needing 5s to hit, 6s to wound, and re-roll successful wounds.

I win by having the warbanner BSB for a static of 5 and a muso, two failed wounds on that tyrant and i win the combat.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2102131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2102131.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
WS10 vs really low skaven. 5+ to hit.

if your 70 skaven are 5 wide that is 9 attacks plus the BSBs 3 attacks. 12 attacks.

4 hit statistically.

.66666 chance of a wound.

add in a forced reroll of 6s.

the final number is you have 1/9 chance of causing a wound with 12 attacks.

the Tyrants attacks are as follows.

6 attacks, 3+ to hit.

4 hits, 2+ to wound.

3.33333 wounds

Stomp at Str5

.833333 wounds

average is 4 dead skaven per round of combat.

yeah the skaven win combat by 1 each round, but the tyrant is "Stupid" and therefore "Immune to Psycology"

he auto-passes his break test each round and slowely grinds you down to where you are no longer winning and eventually kill them all. did i mention the fear test each round?

you will statistically need 9 rounds of combat to cause 1 wound. there are only 12 rounds in a game assuming we start in CC and the tyrant has 5 total wounds. it would take 45 rounds of combat to kill him and he would kill the skaven first needing only 18 rounds to wipe 71 skaven.
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There really are better ways to get rid of huge blocks than a lone character.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2102326.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2102326.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread LD 10 test isn't really "winning."

But I'll give you I won't beat that unit...

How about a hydra? He'll punk them continually until they break?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2103388.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2103388.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2103504.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2103504.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2103848.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2103848.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
the Hydra can put out a wopping 17 attacks and potentially more in a CC phase. this doesn't include the handlers.

there is also the Terror and fear tests the skaven must face each turn. even Ld10 can fail.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2103854.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2103854.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2103864.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2103864.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
10xHE White Lions w/Banner of Eternal Flame 175-185 points(Can't remember how much their banner costs)

10 S6 ASF re-rolling to hit flaming attacks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2105017.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2105017.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2105192.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2105192.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Tzeentchling9 wrote:Against the Hydra:

10xHE White Lions w/Banner of Eternal Flame 175-185 points(Can't remember how much their banner costs)

10 S6 ASF re-rolling to hit flaming attacks.

14x Sword Masters of Hoeth: 210pts

21 S5 ASF re-rolling to hit attacks which hit on 3's]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2192822.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2192822.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

RaptorsTallon wrote:14x Sword Masters of Hoeth: 210pts

9 Terradons = 210pts.
The forecast for this fight – it's raining rocks, and poison.
Also the sword master's attacks are S5 not 6.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2192865.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2192865.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

HoverBoy wrote:

RaptorsTallon wrote:14x Sword Masters of Hoeth: 210pts

Also the sword master's attacks are S5 not 6.

Sorry, I've corrected it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2193437.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2193437.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2193460.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2193460.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
In that case, 20 Tomb Guards, Banner, Icon of Rahaph: 292p

Yah for cheesy reforming.

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To add to that, buffed up to S10 T8 A6 on the charge for 9 of them. = 54 dead well, any infantry. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218214.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218214.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218337.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218337.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218356.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218356.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
No using multiple units

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it doesn't seem very fluffy and it would involve 5 damsels

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Fay Enchantress can take anything she wants.

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you still would need 5 casters to get them up that high so that brings their cost up quite abit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218403.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218403.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218405.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218405.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218421.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218421.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
Vs. 2 Supreme Metal Sorceresses?

2 Hellpits.

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12 Ironguts with Flaming banner 596 pts

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finally a use for them

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4 Terradons: 120p
Flying around you and pew-pewing.

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2 leadbeltchers 110 pts

i might kill myself, but, either way, someones going down.

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Hmm...don't want to do the wraith card...
Doomwheel: 150p]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218469.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2218469.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
Transformation of Kadon and alot of luck.

Dragon Vs Doomwheel, I think I know what will happen.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228059.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228059.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Goblin Big Boss on Great Squig with Collar of Zorga, Great Weapon and Amulet of Preservation: 134p]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228068.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228068.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228157.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228157.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228322.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228322.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228696.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228696.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

can't buy anything that cheap.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228705.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228705.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228713.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228713.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread

Oscarius wrote:Well, crank up the points then, keep the game going.

Ok the reset is:
Slann
Lore of Light
Focus of Mystery
The Focused Rumination
BSB+Standard of Discipline
Cupped Hands of the Old Ones

20xTemple Guard
Revered Guardian
Musician
Banner Bearer+Banner of Eternal Flame

A standard deathstar build, total points is 835 with lots of options to kill off and plenty of points for us to throw around

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Terror test when i charge and 4 chances to do something horrible to the Lizards and that Fat frog.

the Butcher can protect the Giants from magic as they go forward to eat those Lizards.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228839.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228839.page GMT The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228868.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228868.page GMT Re:The Fantasy Beat this Unit Thread
its a unit with an attached Character

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Tyrant with Trickster's Helm, Mawseeker, Wyrdstone Necklace, Heavy Armour, Longsword and Luck Gnobbie.
BSB with Banner of Disipline and Great Weapon
Slaughtermaster with Halfling Cook Book and Crown of Command.
One Maneater with Great Weapon.

Drops in at 830p, deployed in a single file with the tyrant in the head. He's pretty much unkillable with the current resources and is stubborn ld10 with re-roll. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228895.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/313531/2228895.page GMT