<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/15.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions This should mean that enemy units can benefit from the KFF as well? If there is some rule that disallows that then how about allies?

The Mek tools allow a Mek to repair a vehicle he is in base contact with instead of shooting.
a) Can I repair allied vehicles? Me thinks yes unless some rule that I have neglected disallows it
b) If the Mek is joined to a squad can he repair a vehicle(if he meets all other criteria of course) and the rest of the squad fire normaly? ( i would say yes)
c) If the Mek is joined to a squad can he repair a vehicle(if he meets all other criteria of course) and the rest of the squad run? (maintaining coherency) (i would say no as he has replaced his shooting with a run)

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sn0zcumb3r wrote:The Kustom Force Field wording says: "all units within 6" on the Big Mek gain blah blah, vehicles within 6" count as blah"
This should mean that enemy units can benefit from the KFF as well? If there is some rule that disallows that then how about allies?

The Mek tools allow a Mek to repair a vehicle he is in base contact with instead of shooting.
a) Can I repair allied vehicles? Me thinks yes unless some rule that I have neglected disallows it
b) If the Mek is joined to a squad can he repair a vehicle(if he meets all other criteria of course) and the rest of the squad fire normaly? ( i would say yes)
c) If the Mek is joined to a squad can he repair a vehicle(if he meets all other criteria of course) and the rest of the squad run? (maintaining coherency) (i would say no as he has replaced his shooting with a run)

No, enemy units do not benefit. Check the Main Rulebook FAQ. RaW there is an argument for it, but there is also an argument against.

a) That requires a house rule, since allied games are not covered in 40k.
b) Yes.
c) No.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1893246.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1893246.page GMT Re:Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/310392.page]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1893281.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1893281.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions Gamesworkshop fail at rules badly. Even the FAQ to correct a rule is ambiguous...

Fluff wise it bloody well should provide cover! The Big Mek has a huge pulsing force field emitting from his back so anything within that forcefield should get it's cover save. I can't imagine why a force field would choose to deflect shots on orks rather than all shots]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1893341.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1893341.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions
sn0zcumb3r wrote:Fluff wise it bloody well should provide cover! The Big Mek has a huge pulsing force field emitting from his back so anything within that forcefield should get it's cover save. I can't imagine why a force field would choose to deflect shots on orks rather than all shots
The orks believe it only protects them, so it does.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1893364.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1893364.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894062.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894062.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions
Dave-c wrote:This is not true. The codex specifically states that it effects ALL units within 6", when somebody says ALL they mean ALL. This is specifically stated in the codex, and the word ALL obviously means ALL, that being friend or foe, ally or friends of the enemy.

Do you even read errata and FAQs?

GW specifically said that in the case of an ambiguous "all units" designation for a positive effect (such as a cover save or buff), assume it only applies to your army.

Oh, and special rules aren't shared between allies, why would they be shared between enemies?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894067.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894067.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions
Dave-c wrote:This is not true. The codex specifically states that it effects ALL units within 6", when somebody says ALL they mean ALL. This is specifically stated in the codex, and the word ALL obviously means ALL, that being friend or foe, ally or friends of the enemy.


Typically, if GW means for that special whatever to affect EVERYONE, then they are typically kind enough to include this phrase: (friend or foe!) GW is being clear, for once.

Now if it does NOT have that phrase, then it assume it only applies to your army.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894083.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894083.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions
They probably think an integral part of its function is being green or something dumb like that ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894108.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894108.page GMT Re:Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions KFF blue.

They don't need to be red, since force fields don't need to be da fastest, they don't need to be yellow, since they don't need to be da flashest, and da Ork carryin' da Kustom Force Field is already da greenest... what do KFFs need to be?

Lucky!

Ergo, blue.

Ork logik! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894122.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894122.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions kff, not the kff needs to be painted green o.O

Why would some puny soft pink oomans get da benefits of the kff? Yous gots to be tough an green, like da boyz!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894147.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894147.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions
kill dem stunties wrote:
Yous gots to be tough an green, like da boyz!


And my striking scorpions!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894173.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894173.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions SKINNED]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894181.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894181.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions
kill dem stunties wrote:*Ahem* Green SKINNED

So if i painted some kroot green...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894207.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894207.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions
dayve110 wrote:
kill dem stunties wrote:*Ahem* Green SKINNED

So if i painted some kroot green...
But dey iz not proppa orkz. Dey haz no kulture!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894278.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894278.page GMT Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894378.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1894378.page GMT Re:Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions
Oh, and special rules aren't shared between allies, why would they be shared between enemies?

Where can I find rules for allies. I will speak to my TO but he uses "Warhammerworld" as a guideline for Doubles tournaments. Do they have a pdf of rules/guidlines for allies?
F.e. Does the KFF pass over to allied vehicles, can your allie embark in your transports etc]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1896439.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1896439.page GMT Re:Kustom Force Field affects enemy units and other Big Mek questions
sn0zcumb3r wrote:Where can I find rules for allies. I will speak to my TO but he uses "Warhammerworld" as a guideline for Doubles tournaments. Do they have a pdf of rules/guidlines for allies?


The only allies rules that currently exist (aside from the Daemon- and Witch Hunter codexes) are in the Apocalypse rulebook. There are no rules covering allies in regular 40K. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1896447.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/314883/1896447.page GMT