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Sorry if this is just repeating threads from before, or you might say it would be easier to use the search button but i thought that it might be easier to just get most of the tactics in this one thread so i could look again in the future.

Thanks alll.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1916022.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1916022.page GMT Re:Vampire counts tactics?
http://www.yesthetruthhurts.com/2010/09/fantasy-cheesing-vampires-right-way.html]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1916727.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1916727.page GMT Vampire counts tactics?
A more traditional setup would be to take the minimum core for the point level. The better units in VC are special/rare so you don't want to go too much past the min 25%. Ghouls can do more damage than skeletons but with no armor can still die rather quickly. Skeletons role is to tie up the army so your other killy units can do their job. While they lack in the killing power of ghouls they do have a lot more ways to get static combat resolution. Also keep skeletons to hand weapons. Spears are a waste on them.

The star of the VC army is grave guard with great weapons. Supporting them with some other items they will do quite a bit of damage to most units.

For 1k points I recommend running a Wight King as your general along with one vampire hero. The WK has more wounds, 5 toughness and a higher leadership. Also in small games I'd recommend taking all skeletons or ghouls and giving your vampire the appropriate ability to increase their starting size through magic. At smaller point levels it can be quite effective. Generally I take 1 unit of core that just passes 250 points, one 20ish grave guard, the two heroes and then anything left over is on a whim.

Stay away from starting with zombies in your list (unless you're trying the tactic mentioned in the link). They are just terrible in combat. They are very useful as raised units through magic for flank protection, screens or to tie up a war machine for a turn or two.

As for other special / rare, varghulfs are still good, the black coach is good but you have to account for it taking away some of your power dice. I like black knights but they need to be pointed at the right unit, preferably a flank. Spirit hosts like zombies should only be used as a result of magic. Wraiths can be good but are expensive and can die easily to the wrong unit or magic.

Lastly vampires themselves you have a few options. At lower point levels I'd just equip them for combat. Once you get high enough point level to take a lord you can then bump up the magic powers. What a lot of people like to do is give a lord lots of casting bonuses, stick him in a small skeleton unit behind the army and then support it through magic and the helm of commandment. Loosing your general is especially bad for VC as your whole army starts to disappear.

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ramongoroth wrote:

A more traditional setup would be to take the minimum core for the point level. The better units in VC are special/rare so you don't want to go too much past the min 25%.



and you can raise more for free so they won't be going away in a hurry.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1927812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1927812.page GMT Re:Vampire counts tactics? VC Lord, as well as Helm of Commandment. Use those on a GW armed Wight unit with the banner of the barrows - ouch! WS 10 anyone?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1930264.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1930264.page GMT Vampire counts tactics?
A lot of the builds I've seen are what Mattbranb has pointed out, coupled with ghoul units in support and other bits to taste (often a Forbidden Lore light vamp).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1930666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1930666.page GMT Re:Vampire counts tactics? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1931043.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1931043.page GMT Vampire counts tactics? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1931053.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1931053.page GMT Vampire counts tactics? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1941410.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1941410.page GMT Vampire counts tactics?
ramongoroth wrote:

For 1k points I recommend running a Wight King as your general along with one vampire hero. The WK has more wounds, 5 toughness and a higher leadership.



Sorry, but just wanted to point out that you can't actually run a Wight King as your general. Pg. 88 of the VC book says the general can only ever be a vampire.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1942937.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1942937.page GMT Vampire counts tactics? FAQ'd. You can have a Wight King as your general now, assuming you are not fielding a lord as that would be your highest LD unit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1949516.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1949516.page GMT Vampire counts tactics? FAQ *does* say to ignore page 88. It doesn't limit that statement to only certain segments of page 88 either. Weird.

So... if you have a Wight King and no Vampire Lord, the Wight King *has* to be the general?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1949553.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1949553.page GMT Vampire counts tactics?
I have yet to have my ghouls perform as awesomely as other people have. It's probably more due to the armies I have played against. Even with T4 and all those attacks they still seem to loose combat and die as fast as skeletons do. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1951247.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/316237/1951247.page GMT