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Am I right? If not please give me a page number in the 8th Ed. book that counters this assumption, because I can't find it.

...So if I am right, then shouldn't Teclis' ability to cause IF on any double mean that he DOESN"T have to meet the casting value either? Is this maybe addressed in the HE FAQ? All I can find is that it will cause a miscast on a double 6, but that any double is still IF.

I think that people are confusing the issue and thinking that IF and Miscast are one in the same. They are separate items in the rule book. Double 6's cause IF AND Miscast. This should be easily discernable since there are items which cause IF independent of Miscast ex. HE Book of Hoeth, and items which cause Miscast independent of IF ex. DE Ring of Hoetek.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317753/1941299.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317753/1941299.page GMT Re:Irrisistable Force/Miscast Ruling Teclis rules states

Any successful casting which includes a double counts as being cast with IF.

Successful being the key word.

So he must meet the casting value.

The FaQ states that he will only take a miscast ona double 6.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317753/1941315.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317753/1941315.page GMT Re:Irrisistable Force/Miscast Ruling http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317753/1941329.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317753/1941329.page GMT Re:Irrisistable Force/Miscast Ruling
ShivanAngel wrote:The thing with teclis is.
Teclis rules states

Any successful casting which includes a double counts as being cast with IF.

Successful being the key word.

So he must meet the casting value.

The FaQ states that he will only take a miscast ona double 6.


What he said. Also, for regular IF you only have to roll two 6's and it doesn't have to meet or beat the casting cost of the spell. This also applies to Teclis and the Book of Hoeth.

So, Teclis and the Book of Hoeth can get a normal IF/Miscast on two 6's and they don't have to meet or beat the casting cost. Meanwhile, Teclis and the Book of Hoeth can also cause IF without Miscast as long as they meet or beat the casting cost and roll any doubles.

DarkAngelHopeful]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317753/1941340.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317753/1941340.page GMT Re:Irrisistable Force/Miscast Ruling
ShivanAngel wrote:The thing with teclis is.
Teclis rules states

Any successful casting which includes a double counts as being cast with IF.

Successful being the key word.

So he must meet the casting value.

The FaQ states that he will only take a miscast ona double 6.


Yup Teclis/Book need to meet the value and get a double for IF.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317753/1941395.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317753/1941395.page GMT