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vulken 190

elites
5 thunder hammer terms 200

troops
10 marines, meltagun, sarg has combi flamer and power weapon
razor back, heavy bolters 250


10 marines, meltagun, sarg has combi flamer and power weapon
razor back, heavy bolters 250



10 marines, meltagun, sarg has combi flamer and power weapon
razor back, heavy bolters 250


fast attack
2 landspeeders, multi meltas 120


landraider redeemer 240

need help doing the list, need to make it more competitive
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I don't know the new fluff, but the old fluff had Salamanders coming from a very Heavy world. Land Speeders weren't in their armories. Then again I saw GW-painted Salamander veterans painted as though they were African-American instead of jet-black. I guess the fluff changes.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942299.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942299.page GMT SW can have that but not vanilla marines.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942339.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942339.page GMT GW to be consistent within 1 generation of fluff let alone 2 or 3!? You are greatly mistaken

But honestly, they are still a varied chapter, it's mainly just an increase of the 'fiery' weapons. So meltas and flamers galore =D You can still make a very competitive list. Just remember to paint flames on every flat surface, and make the backgrounds green

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Also you need 2 troop spots at least so another tac squad is a must.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942345.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942345.page GMT
Oshova]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942353.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942353.page GMT 10 marines, 2 flamers
razor back, heavy flamers *2

Thiis looks like 2 squads each with 2 flamers? Otherwise it would just be

10 marines, flamers
razor back, heavy flamers *2 ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942357.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942357.page GMT OP has used 2 different ways of notating it "2 Flamers" then "Heavy Flamers *2" . . . ofcourse, you can't have 2 flamers in a tactical squad, let alone when used in conjuction with a Heavy Flamer . . . He must have meant your second version of it =D

Oshova]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942361.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1942361.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1943265.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/317766/1943265.page GMT MM/HF Landspeeders are better than just MM . . . I'm not a fan of single combi-flamers (I only use them in Sternguard) . . . But other than that it's not too shabby.

Will be hard the first turn or two depending on what you're against, as you're longest range weapon is 36", and your longest range tank killer is 24", but these lists are more for making you happy than winning every time =D

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