IronfrontAlex wrote:In another subforum on Dakka there was a topic started about "dirty tricks" in WHFB and 40k, im mobile and forgot the OP's name but once im on my laptop I'll link his topic. I noticed in that in his article anything related to chaos was soley lash... being someone who refuses to use lash I was wondering if anyone else had any neat tricks that border on the dirty; perfectly legal and not cheating or anything. I ca only think of baiting, like throwing DIs inaround but not fighting, nmaking the enenmy have to react soley on them like puppets!

Others?

LordWynne wrote:I tend to bait my opponent with cheap units that can deep strike in between or near them to keep them from gaining an objective. It works most of the time hehehe meat shields work great.

TherVadam wrote: Assaulting with obliterators is really a waste.

jp400 wrote:The dirtiest trick that I know for Chaos...

Use a Loyalist Codex that better fits your "God" Specific army of old. You will have a harder hitting, more survivalable list then anything our current bland codex has to offer.

jp400 wrote:The dirtiest trick that I know for Chaos...

Use a Loyalist Codex that better fits your "God" Specific army of old. You will have a harder hitting, more survivalable list then anything our current bland codex has to offer.

Thanks Gw!

IronfrontAlex wrote:

jp400 wrote:The dirtiest trick that I know for Chaos...

Use a Loyalist Codex that better fits your "God" Specific army of old. You will have a harder hitting, more survivalable list then anything our current bland codex has to offer.

Thanks Gw!

NO I AM A PURIST! i refuse to drop CSM

AbaddonFidelis wrote:

IronfrontAlex wrote:In another subforum on Dakka there was a topic started about "dirty tricks" in WHFB and 40k, im mobile and forgot the OP's name but once im on my laptop I'll link his topic. I noticed in that in his article anything related to chaos was soley lash... being someone who refuses to use lash I was wondering if anyone else had any neat tricks that border on the dirty; perfectly legal and not cheating or anything. I ca only think of baiting, like throwing DIs inaround but not fighting, nmaking the enenmy have to react soley on them like puppets!

Others?

well there's always the rhino-shock followed by massive flame templates. thats not chaos specific but its still pretty effective.

Jihallah wrote:I'm surprised no one has mentioned 4 special weapons in a havoc squad. I've only done it twice, but both times my opponent raised an eyebrow and asked me to hand over my codex

IronfrontAlex wrote:Well the way i see it, i could play BA as Chaos marines... but then i'd actually be playing Count as CSM and realistically i'd be a blood angels player... my opinion? That is bullshittery!


if i play in a tournement i want to see

Alex-Chaos Marines (word Bearers)


NOT Alex-LOYALIST TWILIGHT MARINES


....grrrrrrr



besides if i buy the codex, then GW sales go up a liiiiitle bit for SM, whereas if i buy CSM then the sales will increase with that slightly, might by .000000001 help budge GW to make a legions book!

jp400 wrote:

IronfrontAlex wrote:Well the way i see it, i could play BA as Chaos marines... but then i'd actually be playing Count as CSM and realistically i'd be a blood angels player... my opinion? That is bullshittery!


if i play in a tournement i want to see

Alex-Chaos Marines (word Bearers)


NOT Alex-LOYALIST TWILIGHT MARINES


....grrrrrrr



besides if i buy the codex, then GW sales go up a liiiiitle bit for SM, whereas if i buy CSM then the sales will increase with that slightly, might by .000000001 help budge GW to make a legions book!

While this is very true in all aspects.... My 3k points of Pre-Hersey World Eaters that have been sitting on the shelf since the new codex came out (cause they now suck balls with the new codex rules) are begging for a new codex that puts the balls back into CSM.

That, and I'm very sick of haveing all that money sitting around doing me NOTHING.

Along with my LATD, GS Cult, and Pure Harlie armies........



Seriously, "Frag" You GW for squatting every cool army that I have ever spent time and money on.

schadenfreude wrote:

Anything loyalist marines can do we can also do while looking better at doing it.

schadenfreude wrote:

jp400 wrote:

IronfrontAlex wrote:Well the way i see it, i could play BA as Chaos marines... but then i'd actually be playing Count as CSM and realistically i'd be a blood angels player... my opinion? That is bullshittery!


if i play in a tournement i want to see

Alex-Chaos Marines (word Bearers)


NOT Alex-LOYALIST TWILIGHT MARINES


....grrrrrrr



besides if i buy the codex, then GW sales go up a liiiiitle bit for SM, whereas if i buy CSM then the sales will increase with that slightly, might by .000000001 help budge GW to make a legions book!

While this is very true in all aspects.... My 3k points of Pre-Hersey World Eaters that have been sitting on the shelf since the new codex came out (cause they now suck balls with the new codex rules) are begging for a new codex that puts the balls back into CSM.

That, and I'm very sick of haveing all that money sitting around doing me NOTHING.

Along with my LATD, GS Cult, and Pure Harlie armies........



Seriously, "Frag" You GW for squatting every cool army that I have ever spent time and money on.

jp400 wrote:The dirtiest trick that I know for Chaos...

Use a Loyalist Codex that better fits your "God" Specific army of old. You will have a harder hitting, more survivalable list then anything our current bland codex has to offer.

Thanks Gw!

The easiest chaos conversion in the world is to convert a Khorne themed army to fit the blood angels codex.

Let's face some facts chaos players can't deny.

There is a competitive 5th ed chaos build. Duel lash+Oblits+Plague marines is still a highly competitive army, so many other armies need a new codex based both on time since their last codex and their army not having a competitive 5th ed build.

5th ed chaos codex is so far away we might just see 6th ed 40k before we get a new codex, and I officially call dibs for chaos to get the first 6th ed codex

It sucks that our current codex only has a couple of builds that they player base widely regards as competitive builds, but the glass is half full.

We do still have a functional codex. It's not on top any more, but we sure as hell are not on the bottom.

Chaos is the easiest army to convert into space wolves, codex marines, or blood angels. Any competitive build that the other marines have chaos players can make with chaos models, and it will look better.

Salamanders=Iron warriors
Blood Angles=Khorne
Loganwing=Abbadon+Chaos terminators

Anything loyalist marines can do we can also do while looking better at doing it.

NuggzTheNinja wrote:Theoretically, you can spam more special weapons in a Chaos army than any other MEQ list.

I'm not sure how effective it would be, but you could run...

Heavy Support:

3x squads, Havocs, 4x Special weapons, Champ w/ Combi Weapon (5 SW's ea, 15 total)

Elites:

3x squads, Chosen, 5x Special weapons (5 SW's, 15 total)
or 3x squads, Terminators, 10 combi weapons (30 total)

Troops:

6x CSM or PMs, 2x Special weapons (12 total)

Fast Attack:

3x squads, Raptors, 2x Special weapons (6 total)


You could theoretically run over 60 Special Weapons in an all-infantry list.

Slarg232 wrote:

Jihallah wrote:I'm surprised no one has mentioned 4 special weapons in a havoc squad. I've only done it twice, but both times my opponent raised an eyebrow and asked me to hand over my codex

Slarg232 wrote:Edit: And as for "Dirty Tricks", try this: Take a Havoc Squad, Equip 4 flamers, buy a champ/power weapon, and a MoK, and watch someone who thinks Havocs are "devastator equivalents". Their sorrow, tears, and pain are exquisite.

Ummm.....

Dirty Trick 101:

Lash of submission + a bag-o-greasy-chips.
Insert hands into bag-o-greasy-chips.
Use Lash and pass psychic test.
RAW, you get to handle the opponent's models.

Proceed to rub grease all over enemy models and ruin their models.

'Dirty' Trick accomplished

Sanctjud wrote:Dirty Trick 101:

Lash of submission + a bag-o-greasy-chips.
Insert hands into bag-o-greasy-chips.
Use Lash and pass psychic test.
RAW, you get to handle the opponent's models.

Proceed to rub grease all over enemy models and ruin their models.

'Dirty' Trick accomplished

Sanctjud wrote:Dirty Trick 101:

Lash of submission + a bag-o-greasy-chips.
Insert hands into bag-o-greasy-chips.
Use Lash and pass psychic test.
RAW, you get to handle the opponent's models.

Proceed to rub grease all over enemy models and ruin their models.

'Dirty' Trick accomplished

Sanctjud wrote:Dirty Trick 101:

Lash of submission + a bag-o-greasy-chips.
Insert hands into bag-o-greasy-chips.
Use Lash and pass psychic test.
RAW, you get to handle the opponent's models.

Proceed to rub grease all over enemy models and ruin their models.

'Dirty' Trick accomplished

IronfrontAlex wrote:

Sanctjud wrote:Dirty Trick 101:

Lash of submission + a bag-o-greasy-chips.
Insert hands into bag-o-greasy-chips.
Use Lash and pass psychic test.
RAW, you get to handle the opponent's models.

Proceed to rub grease all over enemy models and ruin their models.

'Dirty' Trick accomplished

..... This is the dirtiest of tricks..... wow.


This makes me CONTEMPLATE using lash maybe... against certain people

Im looking at you @megamarines!

Sanctjud wrote:Dirty Trick 101:

Lash of submission + a bag-o-greasy-chips.
Insert hands into bag-o-greasy-chips.
Use Lash and pass psychic test.
RAW, you get to handle the opponent's models.

Proceed to rub grease all over enemy models and ruin their models.

'Dirty' Trick accomplished

megamarines wrote:

IronfrontAlex wrote:

Sanctjud wrote:Dirty Trick 101:

Lash of submission + a bag-o-greasy-chips.
Insert hands into bag-o-greasy-chips.
Use Lash and pass psychic test.
RAW, you get to handle the opponent's models.

Proceed to rub grease all over enemy models and ruin their models.

'Dirty' Trick accomplished

..... This is the dirtiest of tricks..... wow.


This makes me CONTEMPLATE using lash maybe... against certain people

Im looking at you @megamarines!

I would...kill you where you stood...