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I was wondering about magic in 8th and started thinking about the lores for the Empire wizards.
I wanted to know which lore would be the best for a general close-combat army filled with deep ranks of State Troopers.
I was going to run two Wizards, one a lvl 4 and one lvl 2. The lores i was thinking that would work fairly well were;
Beasts, Life, Shadow and Metal.

What are your thoughts on suitable lores, and what combinations do you know that are effective?

Cheers,

Old Sledgeaxe]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1950817.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1950817.page GMT Magic Lores: The Best for an Empire Wizard lvl 4 must be the life mage if you run this, makes it more lykely to get the good spells, and there relly are no bad spells in the lore.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1950839.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1950839.page GMT Magic Lores: The Best for an Empire Wizard
Shadow is my second pick as all the hexes and okams mind razor will make your average troops, much improved vs enemy.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1951103.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1951103.page GMT Magic Lores: The Best for an Empire Wizard
I like the idea of the life/light combo, HoverBoy and i may run that.

I think that if i run the steam tank within 12", Gonads, my local group will lynch me as they are are fairly balanced group, though, that said, it gives me a good idea for an upcoming tourny.

I was thinking of using a Radagast the Brown model for my Life/Wild wizard. Do you think that he would be allowed in a tourny, if i convert him a bit and add a square base, coz i really like the model.

If anyone has a good Empire combo with the new lore feel free to say.

Thanks again,

Old Sledgeaxe]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1954274.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1954274.page GMT Magic Lores: The Best for an Empire Wizard Most players at Brisbane tourneys use WOTR models or models from other companies (myself included).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1954401.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1954401.page GMT Magic Lores: The Best for an Empire Wizard lvl 2 with the signature spell is a must have.

I havent tried a light mage because i just use my war altar in combination with a level 4 life mage and it works very well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1954439.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1954439.page GMT Magic Lores: The Best for an Empire Wizard BSB with a razor banner on a block of 40 swordsmen, couple that with life/light lvl 2's in the backfield and you'll put the owie down. Throw in a 20 man detachment of halberdiers and now it's scary. You can actually run three blocks, with detachments, like this and be secure in the knowledge that your opponent is going to hate you.

If I played empire I'd definately be running 2/3 warpriests as they add a dispel dice each and they have a very nice buff/heal spell set.

And a Stank (aren't these an auto include in empire lists yet?)

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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:Life should be the default lore for level 4 mages in the hope of throne of vines. Stick a steam tank within 12 inches so you can replenish its wounds for fun and giggles.

Shadow is my second pick as all the hexes and okams mind razor will make your average troops, much improved vs enemy.


Basically this for any wizard that can get these lores, which an empire wizard can.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1960425.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1960425.page GMT Magic Lores: The Best for an Empire Wizard
LucasLAD wrote:
And a Stank (aren't these an auto include in empire lists yet?)



You can get 3 cannons for the price of a Stank and they pound for pound hit harder. Add that to your 3 mortars and now your talking. I can see why taking the stank is good though, its still nasty and takes a lot of heat off the rest of your army. On topic wise I've seen a lot of guys running Shadow lately at my FLGS.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1960465.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1960465.page GMT Re:Magic Lores: The Best for an Empire Wizard ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1961359.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1961359.page GMT Magic Lores: The Best for an Empire Wizard http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1961450.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1961450.page GMT Re:Magic Lores: The Best for an Empire Wizard http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1962948.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1962948.page GMT Magic Lores: The Best for an Empire Wizard
Each of these lores has a basic spell that is incredibly useful. Heavens works best if you can stack it with the War Altar and lore of light... then -2 to hit means that even a bloodthirster is only hitting swordsmen (or whoever) about half the time.

Beasts isn't quite as good for survivability with only +1 T, but it's also basically the only way your state troops are going to do any killing.

Finally, light gives you access to a powerful flaming attack (to burn hydras or hellpits), and just by existing, that wizard can buff the str of the banishment spell on the war altar. However, you really take this guy so you can use the upgraded version of burning gaze.

Empire has (or can have) LOTS of state troops, so you get a much better return, point for point, on things that buff cheap troops. Shadow is also slightly helpful here, because it nerfs the other guy instead of buffing you, but the basic is not really very helpful.

Metal is too situational. Life loses most of its effectiveness without enough slots to fit in throne of vines. Fire is too heavily focused on damage output and its casting costs are too high. Death requires you to get too close, putting your wizard (who will normally be totally unprotected) in harm's way, and also its basic sucks.

Those are some things to think about. good luck!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1970577.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/318393/1970577.page GMT