<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Necrons - competitive (no Monolith) - 2000 "]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Necrons - competitive (no Monolith) - 2000 RTT approaches and I'll play Necrons.
Opponents will be Tau (6 Broadsides), IG among others.
I'll not give them the chance to bring down my Monos.
By the way, no res orb or vod.

HQ - 470
1 Necron Lord (destroyer body, warscythe, 4++) - 170
1 Deceiver - 300

Elite - 336
6 Immortals - 168
6 Immortals - 168

Troops - 360
10 Warriors - 180
10 Warriors - 180

FA - 523
4 Destroyers - 200
4 Destroyers - 200
3 Wraiths - 123

HS - 315
2 Heavy Destroyers - 130
2 Heavy Destroyers - 130
1 Tomb Spiders - 55

Total: 2004 pts

Thoughts?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012551.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012551.page GMT Necrons - competitive (no Monolith) - 2000 Having said that that list isnt:
necron lord with res orb
warriors
points left? yes? monolith
points left still? yes? more warriors
repeat until you do not have points left]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012614.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012614.page GMT Necrons - competitive (no Monolith) - 2000 This hopefully silences guns or slows down the enemy's advance.
If the enemy is close enough, he will face Deceiver, Tomb Spider, Lord with warscythe, and Wraiths.

There will be only one of three missions with mission objectives, the other is with KPs and the third with holding quarters measured by VPs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012629.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012629.page GMT Necrons - competitive (no Monolith) - 2000
wuestenfux wrote:Well, the overall tactics is to stay in the back field and target the biggest threats first.
This hopefully silences guns or slows down the enemy's advance.
If the enemy is close enough, he will face Deceiver, Tomb Spider, Lord with warscythe, and Wraiths.

There will be only one of three missions with mission objectives, the other is with KPs and the third with holding quarters measured by VPs.


All the best if you do go with this list. I'd be more worried though about phasing out due to not having a large enough body count to soak up losses. As well as no resurrection orb to stem those losses more.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012661.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012661.page GMT Necrons - competitive (no Monolith) - 2000 and I never felt that the res orb did help them a lot.
Now the situation is even worse when Necrons are trapped in cc.
If the enemy wins cc then there is a chance to wipe out the Necron unit just by failing the morale check.
Then the res orb cannot help either.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012671.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012671.page GMT Re:Necrons - competitive (no Monolith) - 2000 CC/counter CC unit ? if so then i would drop the Warscythe and stick with the staff, there are not that many Inv saves in guard and Tau that you wont kill with shooting.

Also one unit of wraiths will fold to fire unless you have some LOS blocking terrain you would be better off dropping them and changing your elites to 3 units of 5 immortals, this with the loss of the Warscythe would free you up 35 points, you could stick a GOF or the like on the lord to give you the same edge. It would also give you more shooting @ the 12” – 24” range

Gleep


]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012732.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012732.page GMT Necrons - competitive (no Monolith) - 2000
Well, I battled Necrons a lot with other armies
and I never felt that the res orb did help them a lot.

I haven't taken a res orb on my lord in 2 years. I feel that its almost useless unless youre going against SM av 13 spam, or Mech Gaurd.


Keep the warscythe on the lord. It gives you flexibility. If you need to pop a devilfish, consider it done. Otherwise, you can still bypass all those annoying invuln saves granted by shield drones/special issue wargear.

I feel like the deciever is too slow to be useful. You could drop him for a Lord w/ Veil and condense the immortals into 1 unit (dropping 2 in the process). That gives you enough points to increase one of your destroyers to units of 5 and add 2 heavy destroyers in. OR +2 tomb spyders +1 H. Destroyer. If you have experience with the deciever and like him than by all means include him.

I'd drop the wraiths for a unit of 10 scarabs. They do the same thing, except that you have 9 times as many wounds in the unit. If you're trying to instant death things, i would do it with the heavy destroyers since those also ignore saves and fnp IIRC. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012830.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2012830.page GMT Necrons - competitive (no Monolith) - 2000
Hi Are you planning on using the Lord as a Can opener or just a CC/counter CC unit ? if so then i would drop the Warscythe and stick with the staff, there are not that many Inv saves in guard and Tau that you wont kill with shooting.

Also one unit of wraiths will fold to fire unless you have some LOS blocking terrain you would be better off dropping them and changing your elites to 3 units of 5 immortals, this with the loss of the Warscythe would free you up 35 points, you could stick a GOF or the like on the lord to give you the same edge. It would also give you more shooting @ the 12” – 24” range

Gleep

Shooting at 12 - 24'' can be rather ineffective when the enemy moves very quickly. Here is a corresponding list:
HQ - 440
1 Necron Lord (destroyer body, warscythe) - 140
1 Deceiver - 300

Elite - 420
5 Immortals - 140
5 Immortals - 140
5 Immortals - 140

Troops - 360
10 Warriors - 180
10 Warriors - 180

FA - 400
4 Destroyers - 200
4 Destroyers - 200

HS - 370
2 Heavy Destroyers - 130
2 Heavy Destroyers - 130
2 Tomb Spiders - 110

Total: 1990 pts


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I haven't taken a res orb on my lord in 2 years. I feel that its almost useless unless youre going against SM av 13 spam, or Mech Gaurd.


Keep the warscythe on the lord. It gives you flexibility. If you need to pop a devilfish, consider it done. Otherwise, you can still bypass all those annoying invuln saves granted by shield drones/special issue wargear.

I feel like the deciever is too slow to be useful. You could drop him for a Lord w/ Veil and condense the immortals into 1 unit (dropping 2 in the process). That gives you enough points to increase one of your destroyers to units of 5 and add 2 heavy destroyers in. OR +2 tomb spyders +1 H. Destroyer. If you have experience with the deciever and like him than by all means include him.

I'd drop the wraiths for a unit of 10 scarabs. They do the same thing, except that you have 9 times as many wounds in the unit. If you're trying to instant death things, i would do it with the heavy destroyers since those also ignore saves and fnp IIRC.

The Deceiver is a very potent counter-strike unit. Dropping him and the Wraiths for Scarabs, vod Lord, and more Destroyers leaves an army that has less potential in cc.

HQ - 330
1 Necron Lord (destroyer body, warscythe, 4++) - 170
1 Necron Lord (vod) - 160

Elite - 336
6 Immortals - 168
6 Immortals - 168

Troops - 360
10 Warriors - 180
10 Warriors - 180

FA - 660
5 Destroyers - 250
5 Destroyers - 250
10 Scarabs (disruptor) - 160

HS - 315
2 Heavy Destroyers - 130
2 Heavy Destroyers - 130
1 Tomb Spiders - 55

Total: 2001 pts


Automatically Appended Next Post:
That list is absolutely crazy.

Why?
Everybody giving advice vs. Necrons says go for the phase out and ignore the Monos.
Now there are no Monos there, but more Necrons with more shooting and more counter-charge.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2013252.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/321799/2013252.page GMT