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Kor'sarro Khan-Moondrakan-205

Troops

5xScouts-Power Fist-100

5xScouts-Power Fist-100

5xScouts-Power Fist-100

8xBikes-2xFlamers, Power Fist-250
Attack Bike- Multi Melta-50
Total-300

Fast Attack

Land Speeder Storm-Multi Melta-65

Land Speeder Storm-Multi Melta-65

Land Speeder Storm-Multi Melta-65

Total-1000

Any Thoughts?

If i go first i charge if i go second i outflank.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2079666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2079666.page GMT 1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List CC first turn, and without any eventual backup, they'll get destroyed, leaving you with a few bikes. I could see this working as a base for a 2000 point list, replacing Khan with Shrike, and taking some Drop Pods.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2079916.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2079916.page GMT Re:1000 Point Vanilla Khan HQ
Kor'sarro Khan-Moondrakan-205

Troops

6xBikes-2xFlamers, Power Fist-200

5xBikes-2xFlamers, Power Fist-175

Tactical Squad-Meltagun, Missile Launcher,Rhino, PW, Melta Bombs-230

Fast Attack

2xAttack Bikes-2xMulti meltas-100

Land Speeder-Assault Cannon-90

Total-1000

how about this?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082408.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082408.page GMT Re:1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List tac sergeant and buy an extra bike or so imo.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082565.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082565.page GMT 1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List
Get more bikes!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082572.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082572.page GMT 1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List
A Typhoon is alot better than an Assault Cannon Speeder.

Get MGs on you bikes and incorporate the ABs into the squads.

Not a big fan of the fists.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082584.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082584.page GMT Re:1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List LR and 2 Vindicators, and rhino's/Razorbacks will likely be alive at the end of the game. Its a matter of target saturation at that point.

Keep in mind that I tend to play in the 1500+ range. There tends to be a while different game at 1k and lower level.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082664.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082664.page GMT 1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List RB+Bike captain will do you more good and save 40 pts that can be used for something else. You will also retain Combat Tactics which is better than Outflank.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082706.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082706.page GMT 1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List
Azrael the Departed wrote:a plain 165 RB+Bike captain will do you more good and save 40 pts that can be used for something else. You will also retain Combat Tactics which is better than Outflank.


This ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082714.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082714.page GMT Re:1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List meq squad by himself.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082770.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082770.page GMT Re:1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List
@tedurur-The attack bikes are by themselves so im not shooting flame and melta at 1 thing and to make them more maneuverable and be able to make use of their range. and i cant combat squad them unless i have 8 bikes.

And powerfists are the only way that a bike squad can kill vehicles walkers or be effective in close.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082823.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082823.page GMT 1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List
I think if your going to take the bikes give them some ranged weapons and less in a squad to kepp cost down. you can only take so many special weapons per squad anyways so why waste the extra points taking useless normal bikes?

Regards]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082846.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082846.page GMT Re:1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List MC's. Khan is only str 5 on the charge. Relic cappy is str 6 all the time and will have a better invuln save if you bought the shield, and still cost less.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082861.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082861.page GMT 1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List PW iirc]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082884.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2082884.page GMT 1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List
kenshin620 wrote:Not to mention that Khans weapons isnt a PW iirc


His weapon, Moonfang is a power weapon that causes ID on a roll of 6 to wound. While it can kill MC's, A lagre amount of the IC's (most nids and demons) are immune to ID.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2083112.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2083112.page GMT 1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List PW. But most people play it as one (as do I).

An assault cannon is not moer effective vs AV10 than a typhoon, they are equally effective when they are within range. SO the typhoon is better vs AV10 as well really, cince you will get more shots of and be father away from retaliating fire.

You can turboboost, why would you feel the need to use the unreliable outflank, and at the expense of loosing combat tactics I might add.

12 str 5 attacks is not really a feasible combat unit in my world. Str 5 gets you 0.33 more unsaved wounds vs a MEQ squad. Id rather stay away from combat.

I never said that you should mix MMABs with flamer bikes, I said that you should change the flamers into MGs and then incorporate the ABs into the squad...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2083156.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2083156.page GMT Re:1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List Pg 94 of the Space Marine Codex:

"Moonfang: This is an ancient power sword and a relic of the White Scars Chapter. Any rolls to wound on which Kor'sarro scores a 6 will cause instant death, regardless of the targets toughness."

This is pretty clear to me. Moonfang is a power weapon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2083575.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2083575.page GMT 1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List If you for instance compare to Shrikes LCs it states "These are a pair of master-crafted lightning claws. They ALSO bestow the rending special rule on Shrikes close combat attacks"

but as I said, Im fairly sure that most people play it as a PW with additional rules.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2083646.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2083646.page GMT Re:1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List GW likes to mix fluff and game terms in the same paragraph.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2084518.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2084518.page GMT Re:1000 Point Scout Strike Vanilla Marines Balanced List http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2085666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/325788/2085666.page GMT