<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Pure world eater army for Chaos"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Pure world eater army for Chaos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095651.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095651.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095672.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095672.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos CSM and get a few Zerkers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095679.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095679.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos Fnp makes for a very world eaters feel for the army while still allowing you to take the tools you need in order to be successful. It would let you do some conversions as well.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095688.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095777.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095777.page GMT Re:Pure world eater army for Chaos CSM Support. This works very well. But main core CSM with some Khornies works too.

The only kind of Cult Marines I would not recommend are Thousand Sons. But even these can be useful sometimes, they are just so damn expensive...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095904.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2095904.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
1. Support them with DP's and Termis.

2. Hope to the Emperor that your opponent doesn't have any fast vehicles.

3. Dozer Blades + Forests = moderately tough rhinos. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096583.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096583.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos DP's, Defilers, and Dreads for more target saturation.

Somethin like this-

DP, Wings
Dp, Wings

8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino
8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino
8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino

Dread, 2 DCCws
Dread, 2 DCCws
Dread, 2 DCCws

Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC
Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC
Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC

Comes out at 1700~ so just add or subtract zerkers to fit.

This probably won't win a GT anytime soon, but your guaranteed to make someone have a really bad day with this list. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096662.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096662.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
odorofdeath wrote:Yeah dude don't listen to Drum Machine, he is just ants at a picnic. If you want to do a full World Eaters army then do it! I recommend also getting DP's, Defilers, and Dreads for more target saturation.

Somethin like this-

DP, Wings
Dp, Wings

8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino
8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino
8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino

Dread, 2 DCCws
Dread, 2 DCCws
Dread, 2 DCCws

Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC
Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC
Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC

Comes out at 1700~ so just add or subtract zerkers to fit.

This probably won't win a GT anytime soon, but your guaranteed to make someone have a really bad day with this list.


Less Dreads more zerkers - IMO]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096676.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096676.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096715.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096715.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
Also, I'd be to replace the Defilers' RAC with HF, so that you've got one weapon for far away and one weapon for close up, but that's just a preference thing. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096823.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096823.page GMT Re:Pure world eater army for Chaos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096922.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2096922.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos CSM. the only problem now if finding a good paint sceam (bad spelling), for my deliers. I probably wonk get any heavy tanks just to keep my points cost down and just get deffys w/ H. Flamer and CC weapon.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2097504.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2097504.page GMT Re:Pure world eater army for Chaos
GamzaTheChaos wrote:why not use bikes?!?! give them icon of khorne and powerfist

Why? Because it's not 'PURE' World Eaters.

The only thing allowed are Zerkers...everything else is either MoK Lords, Kharn, MoK Princes, and various vehicles.
They are one-dimensional in a list like this and therefore suffer 'rock, paper, scissors' issues.

I remember going up against Mech Zerker Spam with my bikers at 1500 it was horrible for my opponent where I dictated the whole fight because I could stay out of reach.

They are a support option that requires support in a sort of synergistical way, there is none when it's all the same.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2097518.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2097518.page GMT Re:Pure world eater army for Chaos
I would mix in MoK enhanced marines with zerkers on a 1 to 1 ratio, 1 unit of Khorne zerkers for 1 unit of enhanced CSM with the mark of Khorne. The best part about CSM with mark of Khorne is they can be modeled with Khorne Beserkers, or kit bashed with a mix of CSM and zerker bits. Buy Fabius Bile in your army, enchance your CSM squads with MoK, give the squad 2 melta guns, and the sergeant a power fist and combi melta.

Give every Rhino a combi melta.

For every pair of squads 1 zerker + 1 CSM you will have 2 melta guns and 3 combi meltas.

For fluff reasons I would not actually field Fabius Bile's model as he is actually a member of the Emperor's Children, but you could instead just give a Khorne HQ Character his backpack. It's perfectly within the fluff of the world eaters to mix in steroid enhanced monsters along with regular Khorne Zerkers. Bile's backpack is a pretty cool bit.



]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2097902.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2097902.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
odorofdeath wrote:Yeah dude don't listen to Drum Machine, he is just ants at a picnic. If you want to do a full World Eaters army then do it! I recommend also getting DP's, Defilers, and Dreads for more target saturation.

Somethin like this-

DP, Wings
Dp, Wings

8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino
8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino
8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino

Dread, 2 DCCws
Dread, 2 DCCws
Dread, 2 DCCws

Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC
Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC
Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC

Comes out at 1700~ so just add or subtract zerkers to fit.

This probably won't win a GT anytime soon, but your guaranteed to make someone have a really bad day with this list.


It's bad advice like this that make people end up leaving the game and driving away players for losing all the time. Don't buy all the stuff to make a terrible army and then hate it. If you know it's terrible that's one thing but if you actually want to win on a consistent basis then you need to understand what you're doing.

That's the problem with asking advice here sometimes, there are people who will say anything at all is "usable" but building an army out of crap will just leave you with crap. If you like the fluff, if you're doing a campaign, if you've got really cool models then go nuts, just understand what you're getting into and don't follow advice like the above without first understanding you won't win games against serious armies.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2097947.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2097947.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos MC's.

Anyway, I think you are over reacting to his post.
I can understand your rationale, but odorofdeath is putting down a viable build.

In addition, Tactics doesn't always means: how do I rape my opponent then and there on the table.

There can be thought experiments and making the most out of what one owns.
Not everyone has access to all the models or the funds to overhaul an army, or are just looking to maximize productivity working with a handicap they already know.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098002.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098002.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
Sanctjud wrote:Well MrDrumMachine, I don't know about your meta, but the list above does place well and is one of those 'Named' lists for chaos. Along the lines of 'ChaosZilla'... though I personally don't like the list because I don't associate walkers with MC's.

Anyway, I think you are over reacting to his post.
I can understand your rationale, but odorofdeath is putting down a viable build.

In addition, Tactics doesn't always means: how do I rape my opponent then and there on the table.

There can be thought experiments and making the most out of what one owns.
Not everyone has access to all the models or the funds to overhaul an army, or are just looking to maximize productivity working with a handicap they already know.


I know the list and I've faced it and every time it makes me it's so boring. At 2000 points the people I've faced have added in 2 termicide units and some other stuff and it still doesn't cut it. With DE now out I can only see it getting even worse for chaos.

I don't like seeing players walk away from such an awesome game because of bad advice and feeling like they wasted a ton of money so advise other potential players away from playing because of a bad experience like losing against almost any balanced list run by a decent player.

Can this kind of list be really cool on the table top and fun in a fluffy environment? Of course, it just lacks in so many areas that new players coming here have to understand what they're getting into. I mean come on, even as a named build it has 6 AV12 hulls and 3 -5 AV11 hulls, is slow except for the daemon princes and when you compare fighting it to an IG list that throws down 10+ av 12-14 hulls? I would rather face "ChaosZilla" any day in a tournament.

I love the idea of chaos and the background and the awesome that used to be the legions and how you really could field a fluffy and GOOD list. This codex is just so bad for doing it I can't in good conscience do anything other than advise him to do something that would ensure a better win/loss ration for him UNLESS he asked a question like "What are some really cool ideas for a fun army?".

And really, viable in what way? Killing rhinos to get rid of the cover for dreads is hard now? There's not even a guarantee that the dreads will do something useful in a turn.

Making the most of what one owns IS a good thing but the impression I got was that the OP was thinking about BUYING the stuff to make the army and I would much rather have him play for a decade and have fun than a year or 2 and hate it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098180.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098180.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
I don't like putting berzerkers in rhinos because i think it really restricts them tactically (rhinos get popped really easily then you have a lot of points extremely vulnerable to fire in the open). Its possible for berzerkers in rhinos to work if your army build is really coherent, but you'd also have to accept the fact that some games will leave you really pissed that your berzerkers didn't even touch any unit. Land raiders/predators (lascannon sponsons) are a solid build for berzerkers. You need hvy support that can reliably take down tanks and large threats to ur transports (skimmers can really mess up a lot of chaos lists that dont use predators or havocs).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098222.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098222.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos 40K for over 4 years and have spent over £400 on 7 different armies and have yet to stick to a single one. The new dark eldar models look ausome but god do they look hard to paint, what new rules have changed to make them so good?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098242.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098242.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos The list is rather fast, and not just the Princes.
Fleet makes a big difference on the Defilers and even Dreads can get fleet at times.

@Bertimismaximus:
Rhinos are good generally. Even for combat units. Else they would be footslogging, much worse.
You don't have that many raiders and they are a pretty penny for so little.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098250.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098250.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
tko75 wrote:Thanks for the comments, i was looking at the forge world Khorne teminator champion and the World Eaters termintor conversion pack and i thought it would be a good idea and it would look cool to have a World Eaters theamed army. I have been playing 40K for over 4 years and have spent over £400 on 7 different armies and have yet to stick to a single one. The new dark eldar models look ausome but god do they look hard to paint, what new rules have changed to make them so good?


The forgeworld stuff is awesome looking as usual and that stuff makes into a very awesome looking army and if you're really just in it for the hobby, go nuts because it will look really cool. Otherwise, it's not a very good idea IMO from any sort of competitive standpoint but that's more or less the whole chaos codex these days.

DE have a TON of new rules and are completely revamped, I would suggest taking a read through http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/326407.page for some idea on what the new dark eldar have become.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098284.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098284.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos CSM lists cause they're afraid to experiment. I know its not super competitive, but I said that in my post. I was glad someone wanted to try something different than "Plagues, Lash Sorc and Oblits". Not to knock that type of list; its certainly powerful and fun to get your grubby lil' hands on the other guys stuff . But a little variety never hurt anyone, especially the new guy ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098340.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098340.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098466.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098466.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
tko75 wrote:im thinking of making just Khorne Berserkers as my troops choice, am i being incrediabley stupid?

no.... you can get an ok army out of it. combine them with khorne demons and you can even get a really good army out of it. you'll usually (not always) win in close combat at your flgs with this army but opponents who have better mobility and long range shooting than you do (eldar for instance) will pretty regularly own you unless you take some preventative measures beforehand.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098484.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098484.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos 'Khorne' Daemons for CSM also mean 'Lesser' Daemons, as in there is no flavor ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098506.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098506.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos csm/demons combined army I bring my vulkan army too. that way if they complain they end up facing something thats strictly legal but much, much more difficult to play against. Which is my little petty revenge for messing with a fluffy army I guess...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098515.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098515.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
And yes I did consider total-Khorne armies. One that I drafted up came to 1500pts and involved 1-2 defilers, Kharn, possibly some possessed or chaos termis, maybe a deamon prince, and a huge amount of zerkers. Each squad has a skull champion with melta bombs and a power weapon. Sounded good in my head at the time.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098537.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098537.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos RAW now?
That's new!

So how do you work out summoning?
Do they follow deamon deamon rules?
What about FoC slots and such?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098557.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098557.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos

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well I'd prefer to have demons come off of the icons but people tend to balk at that, so I go to normal deployment via demonic assault.

what do you mean by follow demon demon rules?

both books share a single FOC chart.

thats just the way I've worked it out with my friends. YMMV]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098563.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098563.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
Stubby wrote:
odorofdeath wrote:Yeah dude don't listen to Drum Machine, he is just ants at a picnic. If you want to do a full World Eaters army then do it! I recommend also getting DP's, Defilers, and Dreads for more target saturation.

Somethin like this-

DP, Wings
Dp, Wings

8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino
8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino
8x Zerkers, Fist, Rhino

Dread, 2 DCCws
Dread, 2 DCCws
Dread, 2 DCCws

Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC
Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC
Defiler, 3x DCCw, RAC

Comes out at 1700~ so just add or subtract zerkers to fit.

This probably won't win a GT anytime soon, but your guaranteed to make someone have a really bad day with this list.


Less Dreads more zerkers - IMO


I don't see what the problem is. Chaoszilla can work really well if you know what you are doing. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098575.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098575.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos What works in one place does not for others.

I've seen it wreck face and be wrecked... it's quite the Rock-Paper-Scissor army IMO.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098629.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2098629.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2099014.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2099014.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2099017.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2099017.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos apoc game. There is also the factor that playing a very noncompetitive army like world eaters all of the time can get frustrating so building up a more competitive army first might be a good idea.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2099812.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2099812.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2099884.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2099884.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos Grandfather Nurgle accepts all, even the lowly Dregs. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2099890.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2099890.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
odorofdeath wrote:Hmm I'd never thought that Khorne Daemons were better/more effective than Khorne World Eaters.... the only person I know who plays daemons plays Slaanesh, and usually other play just play Epidermus+Plaguebearers. Nurgle is very popular among the most annoying kids from what Ive seen at my area (no offence Sanctjud)


khorne demons are probably stronger than khorne marines at the moment.... since the blood thirster is so powerful and almost all the other ones have power weapons. a blood letter with 3 power weapon attacks on the charge is probably going to do more damage than a berserker with 4 non-power weapon attacks, since armor will usually stop more than 1/4 of the incoming attacks. also skarbrand is crazy good. people dont understand how good he is. when I run mixed berserker/demon armies the berserkers become pretty damn lethal with skarbrand backing them up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2100038.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2100038.page GMT Pure world eater army for Chaos
Termicide or obliterators (replacing one defiler) works really well to even out your shooting, if you decide to go that route as well.

Other Khorne friendly builds are just spamming 'zerkers in Rhinos. Add combi-meltas, Kharn, and some shooting from somewhere else in the list, and it will be a very solid list. Seriously, the only things that you will have a hard time destroying without melta will be anything that is AV14 or doesn't have AV10 rear armor. S9 Powerfists take care of walkers fairly well, and if you find that dreads/walkers are still making life difficult for you, a Demon Prince or Greater Demon usually does the trick.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2100170.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/326748/2100170.page GMT