http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net It's a very different army. Barring the 7 Dark Lances, there aren't any anti-tank shots.
I know that there are certain lists that will give this one a hard time, but I'm looking for a "get there fast, get stuck in, and hit hard" list.

HQ:
Urien Rakarth

Haemonculus x 2
---Each has Elec. Whip, Stinger Pistol, Animus & Soul Trap

Each of these will attach to a Grotesque unit (3x as below)

Elite:
Grotesques (4)
---Each has 1 Liquifier & a Raider with Night Shields & Flickerfield

Troops:
(4x as below)
Wracks (10)
Liquifier x2 & an Acothyst with Agonizer.
Raider with Grisly Trophies, Night Shields & Flickerfield.




Again, the idea is to get them in fast.
The whole army has FnP.
Additionally, the 3 Grotesque units, due to the attached Urien & 2 Haemon's will have FnP & Furious Charge.

Urien's generated d3 tokens can be used to also make up to 3 Grotesque/HQ units Fearless, or to bring Furious Charge to up to 3 units of Wracks.
As the Haemons have the Animus, they'll have the ability to add tokens to their units every time they kill a model. So, it's probably a better use of tokens to give them to the wracks. I just feel sorry for the poor wrack unit(s) left behind with only 1 token to start.
LOL

I added the Soul Traps as a last minute expenditure, as I had 20 points left over. I contemplated taking off the Flickerfields or Night Shields from all of the Raiders to put ina Cronos for Pain Tokens, but they'd QUICKLY leave him behind. He didn't fit with the theme.

Thoughts?

Eric


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Second, Urien is not a must have. I'd replace him by 3 Haemonculi giving them venom blades and liquifier guns.
Third, I take a 10 men unit of Grotesques led by a Haemi.
Distribute the rest of the Haemies to the Wrack units.
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The problem with that idea, though, is that I don't want Ravagers in this build. It comes in at exactly 2000 points, which is my target.

The idea is to have a fast, hard hitting, HtH army. The Dark Lances on the Raiders are the only anti-tank shots I expect to have.

The 3 Haemon's are a possibility. I'd have to get them at no more than 70 each if I get rid of the 2 Soul Traps... Otherwise, all 3 would have to come in at Urien's 190 points.
The difference being that (a) I have the potential to have 1 less token that way (Urien could have 4 to use), though that isn't really that big a risk to me since Urien's extras are random, and (b) HtH effectiveness. I think Urien might just be tougher than them.
Still an idea worth exploring, regardless.
The biggest problem with it is that I'd have to reduce the Wrack units to 9, which would mean only 1 liquifier gun. That makes me sad. : (

I won't do the 10 grotesques because they won't go in a vehicle. For the idea I have here, Raiders are mandatory. You can't get more than 4 Grotesques in a Raider, if you want a haemon with them. You know?

Thanks for the input.
Any suggestions re: wargear? Things I missed? Should've taken for the army? Shouldn't have?

Thanks.

Eric
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