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HQ: Tyranid Prime (with Lash whip and Bonesword, Deathspitter,Adrenal glands, Toxin sacs and Regen)
130pts

Troop: Warrior brood (all with DeathSpitters, Rending claws, Toxin sacs, Adrenal glands)
400pts (8 models total)


Pease tell me what you think.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139688.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting
Nemesis101 wrote:ok so im still kinda new to nids but right now i have a somewhat hardy unit of warriros lead by a prime please tell me if you think its good.

HQ: Tyranid Prime (with Lash whip and Bonesword, Deathspitter,Adrenal glands, Toxin sacs and Regen)
130pts

Troop: Warrior brood (all with DeathSpitters, Rending claws, Toxin sacs, Adrenal glands)
400pts (8 models total)


Pease tell me what you think.
Welcome to the Hive Mind little bug brother! Both units are too expensive for their role. Are they dakka or CC? I never do both. 530 is a lot of points to sink just two units. Either put a dakka prime with about 6 deathspitter warriors with maybe a strangler in there or a CC prime with about 6 dual bonesword warriors. Define their role. Try not to sink too many points into dual purpose units. They almost never return their points in kills. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139714.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139714.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting
It's better for the Warriors, but in general I think I'd rather keep them cheap and run my Warriors with only a gun or CC weapon upgrade, no biomorphs.

Regen on the Alpha is a good buy though at 10 pts. Put Lascannon, Melta, Krak, ect shots on him where they don't cause Instant Death, and with luck you can get that wound back next turn, freeing up more space to put more Lascannon, Melta, Krak ect shots on him.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139717.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139717.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting
A good CC unit of warriors would be:

Warrior Prime w/Dual Boneswords and Regen

5 or 6 Warriors w/Dual Boneswords (maybe Adrenal Glands)

A good shooting unit would be:

Warrior Prime w/Deathspitter and Regen

5 or 6 Warriors w/Deathspitters and either the Barbed Strangler (for infantry) or the Venom Cannon (for light armor)

My unit is kind of in between the two and works VERY well. They've never been fully wiped out.

Warrior Prime w/Dual Boneswords, Deathspitter, and Regen

5 Warriors w/Dual Boneswords, Devourers, 1 Barbed Strangler

I put a little bit more firepower into my unit just in case, and it's only an extra 15 points for a little bit of AP and a Large Blast so I like it.

Basically choose whether you want them to sit back with your termagants and shoot stuff or to lead your hormogaunts into battle.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139740.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139740.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139785.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139785.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting
For the Prime, I only ever give him a bonesword/lashwhip. Usually, I remove the devourer for a second set of talons. I beleive all three biomorphs are wasted points on the prime. Adrenal Glands, debateable. Toxin Sacs, these actually give no benefit, and sometimes hurt him. Regeneration, not needed since you are running him with the warriors, he has enough other guys to take the hits instead.

For the squad, a few things.
1. Give them either adrenal glands, or taxin sacs, never both. Generally, I go for the glands.
2. Always boneswords over rending claws. With rending claws, you only ignore armor if you roll a 6 to wound. With boneswords, you always ignore armor. For the slight point cost, the choice is clear.
3. I run my squad for cc, not range so I trade in the devourers for the set of scything talons, again. Sometimes I run a venom cannon, but mostly I leave that to another unit.


This gets to be a very expensive unit, but with only T4, they also die very easily if your opponent starts throwing some anti-tank weapons their direction.

Again, resist the urge to throw alot of upgrades on any single unit. Tryanids tend to work better in larger numbers so save points where you can.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139804.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139804.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting
Veldrain wrote:
For the Prime,... Regeneration, not needed since you are running him with the warriors, he has enough other guys to take the hits instead.


That's the opposite of what I do. I run the prime with regeneration. One of his functions is to absorb those S8-9 hits that would pulp one of his buddies. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139817.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139817.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting
Arschbombe wrote:
Veldrain wrote:
For the Prime,... Regeneration, not needed since you are running him with the warriors, he has enough other guys to take the hits instead.


That's the opposite of what I do. I run the prime with regeneration. One of his functions is to absorb those S8-9 hits that would pulp one of his buddies.


Actually, you have a point. Never reasoned actually using wound allocation on him.

Since I only play SM and Tryanids myself I have a bad habit of thinking only how one army would take out the other. Since my quick answer for warriors is "ha, Vindicator" I generally imagine they disappearing, not being picked off to the point where would allocation was make sence to put something on the Prime.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139838.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting
jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:I'm a big fan of the dual boneswords myself, only problem is they get shot to pieces


Sometimes it is good to have a "bullet magnet" unit which saves your other units.

I agree with the principle that you should either configure Warriors as primarily shooting, or primarily melee.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139971.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2139971.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting
Kilkrazy wrote:
jdjamesdean@mail.com wrote:I'm a big fan of the dual boneswords myself, only problem is they get shot to pieces


Sometimes it is good to have a "bullet magnet" unit which saves your other units.

I agree with the principle that you should either configure Warriors as primarily shooting, or primarily melee.


Abolutely. I run a trio of Whip/Sword/Toxin Warriors in a Spore for precisely this reason - when they drop in, all attention switches to them because my opponents know that they are more than capable of eating entire units. It's great to help your other units cross those last few inches of board space under heavy fire.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2140015.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2140015.page GMT Re:Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting Lol I see all your points and have taken them into consideration I have a list with the same combo in a 1000-2000point build in the amry list forum. no ones comment on that yet lol but more or less the same comments will pop up i just ran it for fun (and raped my friends orks horbbile with it albeit borrowing a friends army lol went through 2x10 ork nob squads) the only reason why i take the adrenal glads and toxin sacs is because of furios charge and since the warriros strength is high enough lol i get to re-roll wounds (if i remeber correctly) which i think is just beastly

but i agree with the princeple they should be either shooty or choppy so hear is what I think for both builds

Shooting build:

HQ:

Tyranid Prime: 80pts
Gear: Deathspitter 5pts, Toxin sacs 10pts, Regen 10pts
Total:105pts

Troops:

1x6 Warrior Brood: (5 Deathspitters, 1 Barbed Strangler, All toxin Sacs) or (All Deathspitters and all toxin sacs)
Total: Between 245 to 240 points.

Ok now CC build

Close Combat build:

HQ:

Tyranid Prime: 80pts
Gear: Regen 10pts, Lash whip and Bonesword 15pts, Adrenal Gleands 10pts, Regen 10pts (Rending claws or Scything talons for free or keep Devourer)
Total: 125pts (with either Rending claws or Sycthing talons or Devourer depends what i'm in the mood for)

Troop:

1x8 Warrior Brood: (all Rending claws and Adrenal Glands)
Total: 360 pts

tell me if thats good for 2 builds]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2140221.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2140221.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting The prime will be focusing his attacks on the most dangerous target, anyone with power fists, etc hoping to cause the instant death on 3d6 for dual boneswords. Works kinda like the broodlords hypnotic gaze, only you kill them instead. everything else has lash whips and power weapon equiv attacks. even if they get charged, they cut stuff down. The unit becomes something that MUST be dealt with, and costs 460 points. keep them with a gaunt screen and assign the s8 that make it past cover to the prime. Keeps everyone healthy
Whole unit is WS 6, BS4, So 24 devourer shots cause 16 hits and 8 wounds. Thats not too shabby, and is useful to cut down small units. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2140508.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2140508.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2141003.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2141003.page GMT Re:Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting CC.....am I missing something?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2141185.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2141185.page GMT Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting CC]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2200949.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2200949.page GMT Re:Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting CC warriors is the stuff they are good at killing is better at killing warriors. For instance, bonesword warriors slaughter terminators, but the warriors get slaughtered worse.

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Build 1: Cheap CC (usually used as a supporting synapse unit for a hormagaunt brood or two)
(210pts)
6x warriors with scytals, rending claws, toxin sacs

Build 2: Elite CC (Made for engaging elite CC units or HQs. Not the greatest at killing the top units, but makes for a good mop up unit after you've worn them down with a shooting or a gaunt unit).
(350pts)
5x warriors with scytals, BS/LW, toxin sacs
1x prime with scytal, dual BS, regen

Build 3: Cheap dakka (supporting synapse for termagaunts, or they sit on objectives)
(275pts)
5x warriors with scytals, deathspitters, and a barbed strangler
1x prime with scytal, deathspitter, regen



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Branderic wrote:The problem with CC warriors is the stuff they are good at killing is better at killing warriors. For instance, bonesword warriors slaughter terminators, but the warriors get slaughtered worse.



I remember when a land raider full of Khorne Beserkers with Kharn charged my Lash Whip & Bone Sword warrior squad with attached Prime. Talk about good game.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2202094.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329107/2202094.page GMT Re:Tyranid Prime and Warrior squad outfitting
AspireToGlory wrote:
Branderic wrote:The problem with CC warriors is the stuff they are good at killing is better at killing warriors. For instance, bonesword warriors slaughter terminators, but the warriors get slaughtered worse.



I remember when a land raider full of Khorne Beserkers with Kharn charged my Lash Whip & Bone Sword warrior squad with attached Prime. Talk about good game.


Sounds better than when I charged a Demon Prince with 3 shrikes with BS/LW. I got 2 wounds on him and then he instakilled my whole unit!

I think Warriors are great against marines... but do you really need warriors to kill marines? Stealers would do just as good.



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