<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out
So, I was just wondering what the best load out for wave serpents are.

Right now I am running 2x Dire Avengers, and Fire Dragons each in Serpents. Right now I have Bright Lances on the Dire Avenger Serpents and I didn't build the Fire Dragons Serpent. Thanks for helping me out.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2145971.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2145971.page GMT Re:Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out
Fire Dragon Serpent - Suriken Cannons
This is the cheapest upgrade for a tank that is almost guaranteed to be destroyed after delivering it's cargo.

Dire Avengers Serpent - Shuri Cannons, EML, Scatter Lasers
I swap between these weapons depending on what role my da's will be performing. If they are moving out to capture an enemy objective, it will most likely have shuri-cannons. Midfield objectives scatter lasers and haning back with a scoring troop EML.

I never choose BL's since i feel they are overcosted and with FD's and FP's I have enough AT in my list.

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I am also running 2 fire prisms so I do have decent AT. Ill prob be decking out my Fire Dragons with the cheapest load out, because your right, the serpent will get popped as soon as the dragons do their work.

I'm thinking scatter lasers for the Dire Avengers. It may give me some more versatility in the list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2146037.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2146037.page GMT Re:Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out EML does wonders, especially since the S4 blast is counted as defensive.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2146057.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2146057.page GMT Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out
For Fire Dragons I normally take Scatters as I like the extra range (so I can stand off if I want to), but would never take anything more expensive than than. Fire Dragon Serpents are the most likely to die (and die early) and the most likely to be moving 24" to get into position, so spending too many points on the weapon doesn't make much sense. Its the one place I would consider taking the T/L Shuriken Cannons, they keep the Serpent as cheap as possible but as mentioned I find having the Scatters very useful. YMMV.

For scoring Serpents (i.e Avengers) I tend to take either Scatters or Bright Lances. I tend to avoid EML as Scatters are better at popping AV11 and trimming down MEQ units. If I want an anti tank weapon I take the Bright Lance and if I want an anti infantry weapon I take the Scatters, the EML is somewhere in between but not as good as either one. The only place the EML is useful is against bunched up GEQ (but cover and spreading out ruins it) and AV12, anything higher you should and usually do use Bright Lances and Fire Dragons to deal with as they are much more effective. AV12 doesn't show up that much aside from the front armour of Guard Chimeras (and other Serpents/Falcons I guess) and you should have the mobility to get to the side armour anyway.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2146385.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2146385.page GMT Re:Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out EML is the versatility part of the EML. Depending on how much moving you are forced to do, the EML starts being better. But i always have a healthy mix:

Mostly 2 Shuri, 2 Scatter Lasers, 1 EML.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2146406.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2146406.page GMT Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out imo, but I do like the EML]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2146441.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2146441.page GMT Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2148548.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2148548.page GMT Re:Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out FP and try to fit another WS and 5 man FD in. FP are so fragile. The FD are there to crack AV14 and EML for transports, then your FP can serve up some AP2 cupcakes. For AV14 FD in WS are tougher (Energy field) and more reliable (spirit stones )(5 shots) then AV 12 (no field) and scatter dice. While WS EML is so much better on light transports w/ twin linked S8 (no template) and if you need them for infantry pinning s4 ap4 templates rock.

I run 3 WS EML (DA), 2 WS SC (FD) ,2 FP, 1 NS, 2 Vypers SC, jetseer council and Avatar all at 2000pts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2148773.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2148773.page GMT Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out STR 7 AP 2 Large Blast. That sounds truly devastating when it comes to Termies and other deathstar type units.

Ill have to do some play testing and see what works out. The next thing i'm getting is another squad of fire dragons, but at 1250 points, 1 squad seems to be enough. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2149137.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2149137.page GMT Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out
Having said that with Eldar at 1250pts no matter what you do you can't fit all the stuff you need to make a balanced/all comers list in, and 1 Fire Dragon unit is probably enough. The Prisms are definitely going to be a better bet if you are on a 6' x 4' table.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2149175.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2149175.page GMT Re:Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2150302.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2150302.page GMT Re:Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out That is, shorter range weapons (shuricannons) for units to get close and longer range weapons (scatter lasers) for troops.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2154369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/329513/2154369.page GMT Re:Eldar Wave Serpent Lay Out
wuestenfux wrote: and Storm Guardians (with scatter lasers


Going to assume Defender Guardians

I have never thought about the fact that based on the Serpents Contents, tha range of the equipped weapon should theoretically match. Thanks Wuest.
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