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HQ
Warboss(Warbike, Attack Squig, Power Klaw, Cybork Body)-150
Big Mek(kff, Heavy Armor)-90
Troops
19 Boyz(pk Nob with bosspole)-160
19 Ard Boyz(pk Nob with bosspole)-240
19 Shoota Boyz(pk Nob with bosspole)-160

Fast Attack
1 Deffkopta(twin linked Rokkit Launcha)-45
1 Deffkopta(Buzzsaw, twin linked Rokkit Launcha)-70
6 Bikes(1 pk Nob with Bosspole)-190

Heavy Support
Battlewagon(Red Paint Job, Deff Rolla,Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, Big Shoota)-135
Battlewagon(Red Paint Job, Deff Rolla,Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, Big Shoota)-135
Battlewagon(Red Paint Job, Deff Rolla,Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, Big Shoota)-135
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Personally, I think 'ard Boyz are a bit overpriced and I wouldn't recommend using them.

The same goes for Biker boyz. I just don't think they're a competitive unit due to their price and Ld issues. I'd rather see a 3rd Kopta and Buzzsaws on all three.

I'd put the Boss in a Wagon. On a Warbike, he's too big a target.

Lootas are always a good choice. A medium sized Nobz could fit in too, I think.

This list is a good start, but you've made some fluffy choices. If that's what you want, great! However, it could definitely be more competitive though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2175746.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2175746.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2183742.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2183742.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED)
Take the armor off the 'ard boyz to get another Kopta and put Buzzsaws on all of them. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2183762.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2183762.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED) pk should have the same problem, bud i do agree with claypool on the 'ard boyz they are a pritty penny for not so pritty of a unit ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2183765.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2183765.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED)
chobarba wrote:i like it, i'm not that much of a fan of boarding planks, if the deff rolla doesn't kill it than a nob with a pk should have the same problem, bud i do agree with claypool on the 'ard boyz they are a pritty penny for not so pritty of a unit


So what you're saying is that if 1 S10 hit doesn't kill it, then 4 S9 attacks definitely won't. Makes sense to me!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2183860.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2183860.page GMT Re:1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED)
HQ
Warboss(Attack Squig, Power Klaw, Cybork Body)-110
Big Mek(kff, Heavy Armor)-90
Troops
19 Boyz(pk Nob with bosspole)-160
19 Slugga Boyz(pk Nob with bosspole)-160
19 Shoota Boyz(pk Nob with bosspole)-160

Fast Attack
1 Deffkopta(Buzzsaw, twin linked Rokkit Launcha)-70
1 Deffkopta(Buzzsaw, twin linked Rokkit Launcha)-70
1 Deffkopta(Buzzsaw, twin linked Rokkit Launcha)-70
Transport
Trukk-(red paint job)-40

Heavy Support
Battlewagon(Red Paint Job, Deff Rolla,Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, Big Shoota)-135
Battlewagon(Red Paint Job, Deff Rolla,Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, Big Shoota)-135
Battlewagon(Red Paint Job, Deff Rolla,Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, Big Shoota)-135
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After these adjustments I still have a good amount of points to work with on finishing touches. Any other ideas? I know Claypool plays some speed freeks and I appreciate the help from you guys.
And as for the boarding planks-I don't see too much of a need as my deffrolla should take care of most vehicle krunching that needs to be done . Plus with the movement limitations it isnt as practical as I wish it was, though I do admire how it can let me use some of my warboss attacks on a nearby vehicle(assuming he is in the wagon).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2183881.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2183881.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED)
Add 18 Gretchin and a Runtherd for the rest of the points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2184523.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2184523.page GMT Re:1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED)
6" Waagh + Fearless for your whole army for an game turn is awesome.

Also definitely get the buzzsaws and a third deffkopta. The potential on them for alpha striking if you get first turn is so good. If you get first turn, combined with your turbo boost scout move, you'll be in range to assault and auto hit back armor with str7! And that's if your twin linked rokkits don't finish the job first.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2185212.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2185212.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED)









kidding!!!! secound list is sound... and do try and take claypools advice.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2185636.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2185636.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED) KFF save they're pretty survivable.

This would give you enough points to bump those deffkopta squads up to 2 man with 1 buzz saw and both with rokkits. Lets them do a little wound allocation and if they break you can still rally.

Other than that boyz suck against a lot of things it's pretty standard BW spam and I've seen worse but against SW you'll get trashed if he brings a decent list.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2185788.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2185788.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED) 3D6 back to your table edge. Save yourself some points and keep them single.

A ram on that Trukk would also be a good idea.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2186217.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2186217.page GMT Re:1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED) pk nob with the slugga boyz?

MrDrumMachine- Yeah like claypool said, lose one kopta and the other will run 3d6 real quick away from wherever I need them most likely. For the Gretchin, are you suggesting to keep the wagon with the kff near them for the only purpose of blocking movement? I feel like I could use more boyz instead of buggy purely for blocking enemy units... Unless I used them to screen a trukk but i am still fuzzy on the idea.

bigmeklover- lol for a minute i didnt see the message at thebottom of your post! I was like, "what?? What would that do...?". Hahah that was funny.

Skelly- Yeah Ghazgkhull could be a major help in terms of his 9" waaagh move.

Again, thanks a lot for all of the help guys!

List will be up in a little while...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2186849.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2186849.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED)
Also a single squad of trukk boys sucks in this list. It has no place in the list and will be the target of anything that can't hurt the battlewagons turn 1 and then be toast.

With my suggestion at least you have a better shot at opening up a couple transports before your wagons get there, though you're still in a bad position because you're relying on boyz to do your heavy lifting and deff rollas as your AT. While that may be the only way to deal with AV 14 for Orks you need a better way to deal with lower AV from range so your boys have something to do when you're either forced out of your wagons or voluntarily leave them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2186971.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2186971.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED)
MrDrumMachine wrote:So what if it's fleeing? At least it's not dead. Besides if you plan on actually doing something with the shooting aspect of deff koptas then you need at least 2 to reliably get 1 hit on something and that's not even counting whether or not you can pen it.

Also a single squad of trukk boys sucks in this list. It has no place in the list and will be the target of anything that can't hurt the battlewagons turn 1 and then be toast.

With my suggestion at least you have a better shot at opening up a couple transports before your wagons get there, though you're still in a bad position because you're relying on boyz to do your heavy lifting and deff rollas as your AT. While that may be the only way to deal with AV 14 for Orks you need a better way to deal with lower AV from range so your boys have something to do when you're either forced out of your wagons or voluntarily leave them.


You serious? It might as well be dead. Once an ork runs it's done for, they don't rally. Not to mention 3d6 will take him off the board in no time anyway.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2187686.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2187686.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2188156.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2188156.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED) KFF range and behind your Battlewagons, you'll be fine. Use it to grab objectives later in the game.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2188166.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2188166.page GMT Re:1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED)
HQ
Warboss(Attack Squig, Power Klaw, Cybork Body)-110
Big Mek(kff, Heavy Armor)-90
Troops
19 Boyz(pk Nob with bosspole)-160
19 Slugga Boyz(pk Nob with bosspole)-160
19 Shoota Boyz(pk Nob with bosspole)-160
19 Slugga Boyz(pk Nob with bosspole)-160

Fast Attack
1 Deffkopta(Buzzsaw, twin linked Rokkit Launcha)-70
1 Deffkopta(Buzzsaw, twin linked Rokkit Launcha)-70
1 Deffkopta(Buzzsaw, twin linked Rokkit Launcha)-70
Transport
Trukk-(red paint job)-40

Heavy Support
Battlewagon(Red Paint Job, Deff Rolla,Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, Big Shoota)-135
Battlewagon(Red Paint Job, Deff Rolla,Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, Big Shoota)-135
Battlewagon(Red Paint Job, Deff Rolla,Armor Plates, Grot Riggers, Big Shoota)-135
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I could add boarding planks on the wagons to use up the rest of the points.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2210531.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2210531.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2211629.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/330999/2211629.page GMT 1500 Speed Freeks Competitive List(REVISED) lol yeah forgot only twelve XD. Thanks so much for the help!!
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