<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Master of the Forge"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Master of the Forge http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2177806.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2177806.page GMT Master of the Forge KP and 3 less Elite and 3 less HS. It's a bad idea for 6. maybe 3, 2 elite, 1 HS.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2177825.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2177825.page GMT Master of the Forge

Anywho, a 6 Dreadnought list can indeed be a nasty foe to many. 6 Ironclads in Pods is tough for ANYBODY to deal with, while 6 Dreadnought of the shooty variety with Autocannons, Lascannons, and Missile Launchers will end mech armies and be very able to tie up squads without anything capable of Penning AV12.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2177843.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2177843.page GMT Re:Master of the Forge http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178316.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178316.page GMT Master of the Forge http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178358.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178358.page GMT Master of the Forge ML and LC, and one iron clad. These all drop in on turn one. other pods have sternguard or tactical squads for mop up. If opponents try to reserve their vehicles, then I reverse the drop order.

List can be super explosive and totally shut down the opponent, or the dreads do almost nothing and dissappoint. Usually more of explosive, but failed melta's can be bad.

Against hordes you have to play totally different and suffer from horrible mobility. You should be winning by turn 2 or 3, if not your probably not going to win. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178393.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178393.page GMT Master of the Forge
Alpharius wrote:Agreed - Shazam!


Sigged.

I dont know about 6 dread armys (BA can do a 9), but his laser weapon thing is preety cool. Dreads are good, so its not a bad idea. Try it out.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178538.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178538.page GMT Re:Master of the Forge http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178603.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178603.page GMT Re:Master of the Forge
Mustela wrote:Blood Angels can do eleven - three furious for elites, twenty-five man death company, 5 death company dreads, and 3 normal dreads for Heavy Support.


They can also deep strike 1000 points of death company armed with duel thunder hammers inside a land raider, that doesn't mean it's a good idea.

A 6 ironclad vulcan motf list is a rare sight in tournaments that many people are glad not to go up against.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178738.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178738.page GMT Re:Master of the Forge MotF does allow for some FoC shifting.

for example, you might want some Sternguard and your Dreadnoughts.

i once ran a Pedro Kantor list with a MotF, Pedro, 1 Squad of Sternguard, 1 Squad of Shooty Terminators with 2 Cyclones, and then 4 Dreadnoughts(1 Las/missile, 2 Rifleman, and 1 IClad)


if you won't be using your HS slots for any thing else then using it for Dreadnoughts is pretty nifty if you have other Elites you would like.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178813.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178813.page GMT Master of the Forge MotF with 3; shifting 1 from one slot to the other(Effectively 1 HS, 1 Elite, 1 Swing) Depending on which I need more in an individual List, another Elite, or HS.

Most of the time I have 5 Termies and a LRC, so if I want to take 1 more of either slot, I switch the 3rd dread to the other slot. It often sees the Field as an Elite so I can throw the MotF(with Conversion Beamer) Into a ML Dev squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178819.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178819.page GMT Master of the Forge OP's question, a really nasty way to use the MOTF is by getting his laser of doom, and putting him on a bike.. Be prepared to lose friends though..

ANYWAY:

I don't really think that having that many dreads is a truly viable idea for an army. Melta's will destroy you if your list is alpha striking ironclads and melta dreads, and if they castle up to protect their vehicles there's actually a pretty good chance that few of your dreads will be able to deep strike close enough to go target hunting. (this is by no means guaranteed though)

If, instead, you decide to go with dakka Dreads, you may have better luck. But I think there are better choices that are more durable or more killy.

While the dreadnought has the potential to achieve a happy medium between killing power, range, mobility, and durability, I don't think that when you consider these strengths, and compare them to the strengths and weaknesses of other units, that dreadnoughts are able to keep up.

They are almost certainly better than techmarines, but Terminators, and sternguard, are, on the whole, better imho.

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I myself frequently have considered a list like this, but have balked at the idea of transporting places it to play games. It just seems difficult to move that many drop pods safely or easily. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178844.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2178844.page GMT Master of the Forge http://picasaweb.google.com/thejestyr/Gaming#5503957784821361106

25 bucks at lowes]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2181047.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2181047.page GMT Master of the Forge http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2183077.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331141/2183077.page GMT