<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Kommandos"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Kommandos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2193021.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2193021.page GMT Re:Kommandos I don't have much experience with the Orks yet but I'm just speaking from what I've seen and what I've read.

I personally think that Ambush is far too useful to go without anyway if your using Kommandos.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2193070.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2193070.page GMT Kommandos PK to go with him kinda neuters his effect. Pack flamers with him and you should be good to go. Make sure to run with a full squad of Kommandos, as well. I never got the Snikrot model--just kitbashed one together. Best picture I have of him is here.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2193474.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2193474.page GMT Kommandos imo, they are just going to get picked off first turn and likely wont even make it to combat, easy points for your opponent.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2193480.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2193480.page GMT Kommandos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2193497.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2193497.page GMT Kommandos PK and a burna. i out-flank with them and they pretty much always end up destroying a tank or 2 along with a squad. the burnas nice because you either get a flamer or 3 S4 power weapon attacks. now like any out-flankers they do end up on the wrong side sometimes, but thats to be expected. the main thing is go through terrain, thats why we get 3D6 to move through them.

no one expects sneaky orks!! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195586.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195586.page GMT Kommandos
Attach a Warboss with a Power Klaw to the unit, or even Ghazkghull himself. You'll wreck anything within 13-18" of any board edge, even with a small squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195594.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195594.page GMT Re:Kommandos
it's usually enugh to bring down a vehicle, and the bigshootas enable you to take potshots at side/rear AV on transports if you outflank. they're relatively cheap, and annoying if you outflank with 'em.

36+ orks with move through cover tends to be a pretty good distraction aswell.

//Calle]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195615.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195615.page GMT Kommandos IC without his rule, or the ability to outflank means he loses the ability to Ambush. Check the codex, however--I'm working on a 12 hour shift right now, and am slightly delirious.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195642.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195642.page GMT Kommandos http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195803.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195803.page GMT Kommandos
MasticatorDeelux wrote:@Minmax--pretty sure once you attach an IC without his rule, or the ability to outflank means he loses the ability to Ambush. Check the codex, however--I'm working on a 12 hour shift right now, and am slightly delirious.

Not in the least! Ambush is completely separate from outflank, and requires neither infiltrate nor scouts.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195820.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2195820.page GMT Kommandos
MasticatorDeelux wrote:@yournamehere--not true. More often than not there's always a vehicle of some sort sitting in the back, or a unit of long range blasters out there. You just have to use them correctly.


My only question is who are you playing that is letting you get your komandos that close to anything? I mean I'm not trying to put down your idea it works on paper but with the people I play against, they understand how to deploy an army. And when they deploy correctly then I am not able to get my komandos anywere near anything worth sending them at, remember that if they can see my komandos at all then they have to be 18" back right? So then they just stick the targets that would be great to send komandos at (devs, lootas ect.) inside a ring of stuff that is not so great to send my komandos at.

So what are you going to do? Either you get first turn, move up, cant whaag and cant cover the 18 inches leaving you to what? shoot with sluggas? pff, then they are taken out next turn, or your opponent gets first turn, sees a group of boyz separate from the rest of your army and easily picks them off. I just don't think its that good, or good at all really. You could rely on putting them in reserve but then they are comming on from a short table end, and a random one at that, and with only a 12-18" assault reach with a whaag from a short table edge it really is not that great to hope you come on the right side with a good whaag roll if you havnt used it already.

I just don't see them working, and I have tried. After enough failed attempts at trying to make them work in some fashion I ended up getting Snikrot (which is an awesome model btw) and have not looked back, your experience may tell you differently but if you play with people that know how to deploy and army, they can make your infiltrating komandos useless.

And to the op, yes Snikrot looks like a points sink at first, that why I didn't use him, but after having used him I must say he is worth it, he and his unit become like a swiss army knife, useful in a large variety of conditions. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2196232.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2196232.page GMT Kommandos AT power. x6 str6 re-rolling is fully capable of Pening the avg AV of a tank. and if that doesnt do it (which it hasnt in the past) the 52-54 Str 4 attacks will most likely glance the **** out of it. and that has happened in a recent game to me ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2198574.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2198574.page GMT Re:Kommandos
Snikrot's ability is good, but you pay out the nose for it. You're mostly paying for what is essentially a Nob without a PowerKlaw who is really good in CC. The benefit is that you don't have to rely on a die-roll to determine where your Kommandos end up, and potentially have them be tactically ineffective.

It's thus tempting to say Kommandos are useless WITHOUT this ability, but any outflanking unit suffers from this potential fate of ending up where they're not needed. Not really true.

Kommandos are relatively cheap for what they do. They also are the only infantry unit besides Burnas that can get flame templates, which is great. Even a small unit of 10-12 Kommandos with 2 flamers and a PK nob is not going to be ignored.

They don't fit perfectly in all lists, but they're good units. Snikrot isn't mandatory for them to be good either.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2208168.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/331866/2208168.page GMT