RinesofGlory wrote:I have a lot of fun with a squad of 10 of these with MM and MG and a PF on the leader. They actually do a really good job at Deep Striking in and killing virtually any tank your opponent can field. Then they are pretty tough to kill the next turn. Would anyone ever consider using them in a competitive setting though? They are rather expensive. A squad of 5 with MM and melta isn't that taxing and gets the job done well. Thoughts?

AbaddonFidelis wrote:

RinesofGlory wrote:I have a lot of fun with a squad of 10 of these with MM and MG and a PF on the leader. They actually do a really good job at Deep Striking in and killing virtually any tank your opponent can field. Then they are pretty tough to kill the next turn. Would anyone ever consider using them in a competitive setting though? They are rather expensive. A squad of 5 with MM and melta isn't that taxing and gets the job done well. Thoughts?

they're more resilient vs. weapons that ignore armor saves but not any more resilient against small arms.... when they take casualties it hurts more. additionally they dont have any more offensive potential than tactical marines do... so essentially what the player who fields this unit is paying for is a large improvement in one area of defense but hardly any improvement in the area of offense. The models are way sick and they're fine for casual play. I think though that without improved offensive potential they're unlikely to make many appearances in competitive play.

BloodThirSTAR wrote:Take a squad with meltagun, multi-melta, combi melta/power fist. Attach a Librarian with terminator armor and Gate of Infinity. He can deep strike with them then use GoI to keep them moving and shooting, plus the reroll for scatter still applies each time.

Jihallah wrote:

AbaddonFidelis wrote:

RinesofGlory wrote:I have a lot of fun with a squad of 10 of these with MM and MG and a PF on the leader. They actually do a really good job at Deep Striking in and killing virtually any tank your opponent can field. Then they are pretty tough to kill the next turn. Would anyone ever consider using them in a competitive setting though? They are rather expensive. A squad of 5 with MM and melta isn't that taxing and gets the job done well. Thoughts?

they're more resilient vs. weapons that ignore armor saves but not any more resilient against small arms.... when they take casualties it hurts more. additionally they dont have any more offensive potential than tactical marines do... so essentially what the player who fields this unit is paying for is a large improvement in one area of defense but hardly any improvement in the area of offense. The models are way sick and they're fine for casual play. I think though that without improved offensive potential they're unlikely to make many appearances in competitive play.

Agreed, that and they compete with Sternguard who can do nastier in a Pod. Not to mention the other elite choices in the 'dex... Still, they are fluffy and have absolutly beaut models, also plenty of conversion opportunity with all the SM/CSM plastic kits these days. I'd have a unit for display/fun times purpose if I played Vanilla

AbaddonFidelis wrote:

RinesofGlory wrote:I have a lot of fun with a squad of 10 of these with MM and MG and a PF on the leader. They actually do a really good job at Deep Striking in and killing virtually any tank your opponent can field. Then they are pretty tough to kill the next turn. Would anyone ever consider using them in a competitive setting though? They are rather expensive. A squad of 5 with MM and melta isn't that taxing and gets the job done well. Thoughts?

they're more resilient vs. weapons that ignore armor saves but not any more resilient against small arms.... when they take casualties it hurts more. additionally they dont have any more offensive potential than tactical marines do... so essentially what the player who fields this unit is paying for is a large improvement in one area of defense but hardly any improvement in the area of offense. The models are way sick and they're fine for casual play. I think though that without improved offensive potential they're unlikely to make many appearances in competitive play.