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				<title>30 Chosen CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So, I have been looking a lot at Chosen lately. While it is a unit I have never used in my 3 years of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, I feel like infiltrating 30 of these guys could be a real problem for a lot of armies. Even if I did not max out on Chosen, they seem like their ability to either infiltrate, outflank, or deploy normally could give them a lot of tactical advantages in a Chaos army. Does anyone have any experience taking a lot of Chosen? What is your opinion of them?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:04:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:30 Chosen CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I use 20 in a Khorne themed army that I have run a few times, in two squads of 10.  I kit them out with IoK, Champ/Fist, 2 Melta, 2 Flamer and Infiltrate them.  The list I use them in includes 2x10 Lesser Daemons, 2x8 Zerks in Rhinos, and a Khorne Prince at 1500.  Being able to infiltrate the Icon for the Daemons is where the idea started, many times I lose the Chosen by Turn 3 but by then the Zerks, Prince, and Summoned Daemons are on them.  Being able to take 2 each of the special weapons also gives me a very versatile squad (not to mention 4 attacks each on the charge with the IoK).  They can be tons of fun to play with, a bit hit or miss with missions and opponents but still wicked fun.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:17:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I have used them sevreal times to stop the old Space Wolf plasma gunline force that my oppponent keeps feilding and blob em to death, or I max out my bezerkers and do the same thing.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:18:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Chosen squad is better when its small,but heavily armed. I like having 10 or less of the boyz in rhino and outflank. Take flamers and/or meltaguns and the enemy is screwed.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 8 Dec 2010 16:22:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I outflank 5 of them, meltaguns, and an icon of chaos undivided.  Low cost, can summon daemons, and effectively lock out a foot on either side of the board for all enemy armour.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 8 Dec 2010 17:27:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've always been interested in running army with 3 squads of 10 chosen with 5 meltaguns. Give them the Icon of Slaanesh and they can guide deep striking terminators and obliterators in. Not to mention I5 means they have the upper hand against other <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(95);'>MEQ</span> troops (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(10);'>BA</span> Assault Squads, Grey Hunters, etc).<br /> <br /> You could also combine this with a Lash Prince or Sorcerer for possible turn 1 assault shenanigans. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 9 Dec 2010 00:07:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I always seem to face the dreaded 15 man Space Wolf plasma gunline and these guys can equal the odds if you out flank them and melta them to death. If not a 20 man blob of Bezerkers do it well enough.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 9 Dec 2010 00:11:24]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>extrenm(54) wrote:</cite>So, I have been looking a lot at Chosen lately. While it is a unit I have never used in my 3 years of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40k</span>, I feel like infiltrating 30 of these guys could be a real problem for a lot of armies. Even if I did not max out on Chosen, they seem like their ability to either infiltrate, outflank, or deploy normally could give them a lot of tactical advantages in a Chaos army. Does anyone have any experience taking a lot of Chosen? What is your opinion of them?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> seems like it might work. special weapons are good and the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>csm</span> book has pretty limited mobility options so anything to get them closer to the enemy...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Dec 2010 05:42:50]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AbaddonFidelis]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I will proxy some chosen and give this a shot sometime. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:16:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ extrenm(54)]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, 30 Chosen is too much.<br /> I'd take outflanking or infiltrating 3x 5 Chosen in Rhinos with maxed-out special weapons.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:41:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ wuestenfux]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've got 15 in my army each inside a Rhino with double special weapons - they add Rhino saturation to my army and more melta/flamer goodness.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:46:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mercer]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I run a 10 man squad with 5 flamers. The thing about chosen is you have to keep them out of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span> in order to fully use the points you dropped into all of those special weapons. <br />  I like to infiltrate them near an objective and burn out whatever enemies are in cover. Flamers might not seem like a good choice, but five of them ignoring cover dropping pie plates = a crapton of hits. Give them an icon and teleport my termies in to help in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>cc</span>, or I'll drive a Zerker squad over in a rhino. <br />   I'd say for the chance to run 5 plasma/melta/flamer in a squad of 10, that also infiltrates, and has an icon, it's worth the points.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:57:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lint]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Chosen in Rhinos are useful in a fully mech <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> army, with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> in Rhinos and Havocs in Rhinos.<br /> If you go first and let the Chosen/Rhinos infiltrate, they can take on some serious threats while your other units are approaching.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Dec 2010 16:58:18]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>wuestenfux wrote:</cite>Chosen in Rhinos are useful in a fully mech <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> army, with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span> in Rhinos and Havocs in Rhinos.<br /> If you go first and let the Chosen/Rhinos infiltrate, they can take on some serious threats while your other units are approaching.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You cannot infiltrate the rhino.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Dec 2010 18:30:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:30 Chosen CSM</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span> you can<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(458);'>DT</span> gain the infiltrate and scout rule if their squad has them.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Dec 2010 20:43:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ the squad gets outflank if its in the rhino. it cannot be infiltrated.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 10 Dec 2010 21:31:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>AbaddonFidelis wrote:</cite>the squad gets outflank if its in the rhino. it cannot be infiltrated.</div></blockquote><br /> Why is that? I thought a dedicated transport benefited from a unit's special rule. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 Dec 2010 15:11:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>extrenm(54) wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>AbaddonFidelis wrote:</cite>the squad gets outflank if its in the rhino. it cannot be infiltrated.</div></blockquote><br /> Why is that? I thought a dedicated transport benefited from a unit's special rule. </div></blockquote><br /> Outlfank specifically says you can outflank with the dedicatded transport infiltrate does not.<br /> <br /> But <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span> you could delpoy the rhino normally and still infiltrate with the guys.  Unless something in infiltrate says you lose it with a transport but I don't think it does.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:55:39]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ ArtfcllyFlvrd]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ thats just what the rule says. its in the universal special rules section of the main rule book.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> or maybe it gets scout, which would confer outflank or a 12" move. I really dont remember exactly. but Im positive you cannot infiltrate a unit in a rhino.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:55:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, my desire to infiltrate 30 chosen goes away if I can't put them in a rhino. Thanks for filling me in. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 13 Dec 2010 22:21:44]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yep]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 14 Dec 2010 07:26:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ AbaddonFidelis]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Outflanking them can be pretty darn good, though.  If you put a combi-melta on the Rhino, it can also potentially kill an enemy vehicle as well.]]></description>
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