http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/69.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Hello, I have been collecting and painting 40k armies for awhile now, and I finally decided that I actually wanted to play some games. I am probably just going to play casually first, but I might want to play competitively in the future. I have a marine army that i painted like dark angels and with Christmas coming up I was wondering if I should get the Dark angles codex and run the army as actual DA's or if I should get the Space marine codex and run them as normal marines? Thanks]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2221414.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2221414.page GMT get DA if you want to use deathwing
for other wings get vanilla dex]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2221423.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2221423.page GMT DA codex is pretty meh ATM. Go for Vanilla. Unless you really really want a load of terminators.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2221443.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2221443.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2221447.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2221447.page GMT DA, but it's not very competitive in most cases. For everything else you should use normal Space Marines because DA isn't at ALL competitive in ANYTHING ELSE. I use a DA because I run Deathwing and also because I don't want to buy a second book. Don't make the same mistake I did: go with the normal codex.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2222255.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2222255.page GMT DA/SW, lots of marines SW/SM]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2222267.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2222267.page GMT DA codex the other day and noticed a couple of advantages DAs still have over vanilla marines:

1. DA venerable dreads are about 20 points cheaper than vanilla venerable dreads. Also they get plasma cannons for free, making venerable dreads with plasma cannons a real bargain. True, they only have BS/WS 4, but that's the price you pay.

2. DAs can still take a meltagun or flamer in a 5-man squad. That means, like space wolves, you can make a razorback spam army with 5-man units. The squad costs more than space wolves overall, but 5 guys in a TL las razorback with a flamer is an excellent multi-purpose troop unit, if you could take 5 or 6 of them (or possibly the HB razor with a meltagun squad inside).

3. 5-point pintle-mounted storm bolters. At that cost, might as well throw them on all the vehicles that can take them.

4. Squadrons of speeders can have up to 5 speeders, if I'm reading this correctly

5. Unlimited range psychic hoods on librarians. The powers are kind of meh, but you gotta have an HQ.

So a DA razor spam army with 3 venerable dreads, 5-6 razorback squads, 3 dakka preds, a librarian, and a chunky squadron of speeders or two would be a highly effective army, even in 5th edition.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2223718.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2223718.page GMT DA force myself... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2225131.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2225131.page GMT DA techmarine army:

http://yesthetruthhurts.com/2009/12/critical-mass-salvation/]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2225350.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2225350.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2225366.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/333338/2225366.page GMT