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The idea with the list is actually to go quite assault-heavy, with Incubi, a Court and Wyches doing most of the CC heavy lifting, but I just can't seem to cram everything that I need into a 1000pt army whilst keeping everything viable (in particular, anti-tank). Normally I would nut out a list on my own, but I have spent hours contenmplating this and I just can't seem to get it all to fit.

In terms of list type, heavy mech is out the window, so hybrid or WWP is the go. I would also prefer a list with an Archon (or better yet, Malys) as the model is gorgeous.

Anyway, I am looking for stories about success people have had with DE at 1k, list ideas in general, and tips for playing assault-orientated DE. Really, and DE-related input would be great.

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Succubus Agonizer, blast pistol 100
Bloodbridesx9 Syren, agonizer, blast pistol, 1x shardnet + impaler, 2x razorflail, raider, enhanced sails 257
Wyches x10 Hekatrix, agonizer, 1x hydra gauntlet,1x shardnet + impaler, haywire, raider 230
Warriors x10 Splinter cannon, raider, flickerfield, nightshield 180
Ravager flickerfield tri-lance 115
Ravager flickerfield tri-lance 115

997

But then, you put a whole bunch of restrictions on what you want and then said it doesn't work.

I'm not sure that what you are asking for can be done. Perhaps you should start out with a 1000 point list in the Army list section and ask for suggestions from there.

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To simplify things, I want to create a usable army off this basis;

2x Haemonculi, 2 Liquifier Guns, 2 Webway Portals
7 Incubi
Raider
7 Incubi
Raider

This comes to 598pts.

As the earlier scaffold was a bit complex, just use this. This is the basis for the army, I am interested to know how people would spend the last 402pts.

The other option would be to drop the two WWP and save 70pts, leaving 472pts to get troops and anti-tank.

All suggestions welcome.

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Dracos

I don't mean to say it doesn't work, just that I haven't been able to make it work. That is why I'm looking for advice from experienced Dark Eldar players; people who understand the army enough to incorporate units that I like into it whilst remaining semi-competetive. If that is too difficult, just use the above basis for a 1000pt list. But thanks for the input; its a nice list, except is kinda breaks the 'not heavy mech' restriction. It does use five tanks at 1k, even if they're paper airplanes...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334366/2240536.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334366/2240536.page GMT WWP. Then have a large unit or two of wyches for the close combat support.

Of course I have no experience with DE but it is a suggestion.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334366/2240563.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334366/2240563.page GMT
I like the idea, but I generally find warriors a bit expensive for just one blaster. I really can't justify a single S8 shot for 60pts. As an ork player, I keep comparing it to lootas, who for 75 pts, will get D3x5 S7 shots at 48" range. But I really can't find better ways to squeeze in AT...
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You would be really pushing it to get a competitive army having put so many points into those two Incubi units. You have to take some troops and 400ish points is going to be 2 maybe 3 scoring units (2 big units in Raiders or 3 smaller units in Venoms probably). The problem is that this leaves you with pretty much no anti tank capability at all. Most of the the problem is that you are trying to get redundancy in your list but at 1000pts its not really possible. That combination you posted would probably work in a 1750-2000pt list. You could possible fit two small units of Incubi in Venoms (with no Haemonculi attached) but that would still leave you pretty light on scoring and support units at this points level.

As far is going mech or not, DE assault armies either have to be in Raiders/Venoms or should be coming out of Portals, walking them anywhere will end badly. Going a mech route your assault units are going to be Wyches, Archon Courts and Incubi, with a WWP list they you are best to take Beastmasters, Hellions + Baron (both have great threat range coming through the Portal), Harlies (carrying the Portal) and maybe large units of Wyches.

When you are building a list the first thing you generally need to sort out is your troops. At 1000pts its particularly important as you are going to be limited to the compulsory HQ, 2-3 troops and then a couple of support units. If you are wanting to go assault heavy then a couple of Wych units in Raiders would be a good place to start.

Don't compare a 5 man Blaster unit to Lootas, their main purpose to be scoring not to take out light vehicles. Single blasters a bad idea though, either find the points for a Blast Pistol or take full unit with a Dark Lance.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334366/2240582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334366/2240582.page GMT WWP deployment.
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I agree with powerguy's general structural thingy when determining whether to go mech or foot; my problem is fitting in AT whilst running a Court, Incubi and wyches. The obvious solution is ravagers, but with a pair of ravagers and a transport for each of the above you find a minimum of 5 tanks, without even having two troops choices. The solution is a webway portal over some tanks, but then you lose redundancy as the ravagers deploy with the portal bearers. Thankyou to powerguy, despite raising more questions, your post was very helpful in defining a general structure for mech and webway Deldar.

All in all; confused. I need the help of clever players who can see through this, and through experience, work out a balance for DE that is very combat heavy, whilst still packing a good dollop of AT. And incubi. Don't forget incubi.
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