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Lord:
Duke charlemagne
The duke of Agingort is a strong fellow, wearing some of the finest armour known to man.
this leads him to be an affording and effective combatant, far more skilled the even the
most venerated of grail knights. the sword he has been blessed with was granted to him by
the lady herself. it is named Excallubur. finally, the steed he races upon, Thagghilhulf
is a royal pegasus, one of the few left in agingort, in fact.

Sword of the ladies champion [counts as being 1 point higher then the toughness of the target,
even T10. [it becomes imaginary Str11]. this value is used for 'to wound' and to calculate
armour save. magic weapon]

Royal pegasus [uh, a pony with wings]

Armour of agilulf [heavy armour and shield. magic, gives WS10]

Lance

Grail vow [need it for sword]

269 points


Prohpetess:
Lady Envigas
Envigas is a mystic hailing from couroune. when the fay returned her, however, she was sent
to the nothern island of agingort. here, she serves the king. she is a powerful lady, and an
advanced mage.

Level 4 prophetess of the lady
Royal pegasus, Dispel scroll

300 points

23%^

Heroes
Paladin:
Grimaldius
Grimaldius is an honoured veteran of charlemagnes campaigns. he is as true as any solder, and carries
his dukes banner into battle.

BSB, Wailing banner [causes terror]
Barded warhorse

124 points
5%^

Core:
Hall of grimstone guard
50 M@A
Full command
277 points

Hall of northshore guard
50 M@A
Full comand
277 points

Muster of northern agingort
15 KOTR
Command, Banner of swiftness
396 points

Muster of the southern island
15 KOTR
Command, Banner of chalons
396 points

Archers of greater Genham
16 bowmen
Light armour, Musician, Villein
122 points

Bowmen of central genham
8 bowmen
Light armour, musician, villein
66 points

Rangers
20 bowmen
Skirmishers, light armour, musician, villein
170 points

Rare:
Pride of nottingbeef
Trebuchet
Yeoman
100 points

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334515/2243006.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334515/2243006.page GMT ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334515/2244838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334515/2244838.page GMT While everyone enjoys a healthy dose of storyline with their toy soldiers (I know I do!), it's much easier to read your list if you don't have things like added names and bits of story and if you line things up horizontally.

Lord - Royal Peg, Grail Vow, Armor of Agiluf, Sword of the Lady's Champion, Lance - 259
Prophetess - Lv.4, Royal Peg, Dispel Scroll - 300

Paladin - BSB, Wailing Banner - 124

50x Man-at-Arms - Full Command - 277
50x Man-at-Arms - Full Command - 277
15x Knights of the Realm - Full Command, Banner of Chalons - 394
15x Knights of the Realm - Full Command, Banner of Swiftness - 399
20x Bowmen - Skirmishers, Light Armor, Musician, Champion - 170
16x Bowmen - Light Armor, Musician, Champion - 122
10x Bowmen - Champion, Musician - 80

Field Trebuchet - Craftsman - 100

Total: 2502

Now that it's a little easier to read... I've italicized parts of your list where you had incorrect point totals. Looks like you were off on certain things like Banner of Swiftness being 15pts, your Lord being a little cheaper, and you can't take 8x Bowmen since they're a minimum of 10.

I would change around your infantry a bit. I don't think you really need 5 ranks of Horded MaA. If it's something that actually has more than four ranks and you just want to pin it down, quick reform to 5x8 and you won't be going anywhere. Ranked archers are better in packs of 20 and I wouldn't bring any more than 10 Skirmishing ones (if any at all). I'd also pick up Braziers for each of them. It's a total of 15 points to give three units of Archers flaming arrows, totally worth it. What isn't worth it are the Archer Champs. Extra points for a single BS4 shot out of your volley? Same with Light Armor upgrades. A pure 6+ armor save doesn't exist against most things and barely exists even when it's there. Just these changes to your list opens up quite a few points.

If it were my list, and using these units only, I'd probably play around a bit. Since the Lord's Sword seems pretty important to your storyline I kept it in there too.

Phrophetess - Dispel Scroll, Pegasus - 300
Lord - Sword of the Lady's Champion, Dragon's Claw, Virtue of the Ideal, Grail Vow, Pegasus - 259
Paladin - Wyrmlance, Obsidian Amulet, BSB - 124
15x Knights - Full Command, Banner of Chalons - 394
14x Knights - Full Command, Banner of Swiftness - 399
40x Man-at-Arm - Full Command - 227
40x Man-at-Arm - Full Command - 227
20x Archers - Braziers, Musician - 130
20x Archers - Braziers, Musician - 130
10x Archers - Skirmishers, Braziers, Musician - 75
Trebuchet - Craftsman - 100
Trebuchet - Craftsman - 100

Total: 2497

I swapped up your Lord a little bit. He's no longer the general, but he's a better combat character with Virtue of the Ideal and the Dragon's Claw helps a great deal against Lore of Metal and makes his Blessing a permanent 5+. I gave the Paladin the Wyrmlance so he could still be S6 on the charge, except now it's a Flaming Lance and you get a neat breath weapon! With this Lance you can slam into anything relying on Regen and remove it's Regen before the rest of your Lance Formation hits. With the Obsidian Amulet that unit has MR2 so has a decent 4+ ward save against Lore of Metal and a 3+ against S5 or better magics.

Edit: Left the Pegasus out of the Lord's item list. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334515/2244943.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334515/2244943.page GMT
10 archers are the minimum; but with musician and braz they are 80 points.

The BSB would be better served with a protective item; and the shrieking sword to cause fear is good enough.

I'd not mount the general on peg, he's better served on horseback. That sword is generally over-priced. I'd rather have S6 against everything, than Str=To+1. Very few T6 or T7 targets, and that's what the Trebuchet should kill.

I liked the story behind the army. I also like the build; it's good to see a healthy mix of infantry with the lances.

-Matt]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334515/2245032.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/334515/2245032.page GMT
So, what should I take instead of the sword?

and why give him virtue of the ideal? now he has weaker WS [by 1. and he really doesn't need the extra initiative.] he's best for general. I thought so, anyway.


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