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				<description><![CDATA[ hey all, still in the toddler stage of learning Fantasy and so far I'm really enjoying it, here's a list I cooked up with the help of my good friend Laughing God, tell me what you think!<br /> <br /> Hero:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 2 Sorcerer w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Blood of Tzeentch, Conjoined Homunculus - 190pts<br /> <br /> Core:<br /> 17x Chaos Warriors, Full Command, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Hand Weapons + Shields, Blasted Standard - 362pts<br /> 10x Chaos Warriors, Full Command, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Halberds - 220pts<br /> 10x Chaos Warhounds w/scaly skin - 70pts<br /> <br /> Rare:<br /> Chaos Warshrine w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span> - 150pts<br /> <br /> Total: 992pts<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 27 Dec 2010 01:35:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:1000pts WoC new to fantasy!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Solid list only thing I can think of is maybe there is someplace better to spent those points you have on your hounds for scaly skin? <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(793);'>IDK</span><br /> <br /> Anyone else have input or is this a good starting point for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WOC</span>?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Dec 2010 13:03:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ thanks for the love Doug, at least you still care <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:28:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Heinrich]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Looks neato to me.  I like that you are using hounds.  Maybe fit in another squad of them?<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Dec 2010 18:35:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ djphranq]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think the scaly skin probably isn't worth it.  I might also split the hounds in to two packs of 5 to try to get one through to any war machines.  Might be wrong on that, though- 10 certainly gives you a better shot at chomping other chaff and is still cheap...]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Dec 2010 19:38:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Red_Zeke]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I think it looks pretty good.  I think I would add more bodies to that Khorne warrior unit though.  Can you still disrupt if you lost one model from them?  You could just run 5 hounds for 30 points and squeeze in 3 more warriors to that unit.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Dec 2010 00:50:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ boogeyman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Here's a few edits everyone:<br /> <br /> Hero:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 2 Sorcerer w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Blood of Tzeentch, Conjoined Homunculus - 190pts<br /> <br /> Core:<br /> 17x Chaos Warriors, Full Command, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Hand Weapons + Shields, <b>War Banner</b> - 347pts<br /> <b>12x</b> Chaos Warriors, Full Command, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Halberds - 220pts<br /> <b>5x Chaos Warhounds - 30pts</b><br /> <b>5x Chaos Warhounds - 30pts</b><br /> <br /> Rare:<br /> Chaos Warshrine w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span> - 150pts<br /> <br /> Total: 999pts]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Dec 2010 03:26:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Heinrich]]></author>
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				<title>Re:1000pts WoC new to fantasy!</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I think your points might be off.  I am also not sure if the war banner is the cost in the rule book or the army book.  The rule book is 10 points more. <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> <br /> <br /> Here is what I was thinking of;<br /> <br /> Hero: <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 2 Sorcerer w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Blood of Tzeentch, Conjoined Homunculus - 190pts <br /> <br /> Core: <br /> 17x Chaos Warriors, Full Command, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Hand Weapons + Shields, Blasted Standard - 362pts <br /> 13x Chaos Warriors, Full Command, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Halberds - 268pts <br /> 5x Chaos Warhounds - 30pts <br /> <br /> Rare: <br /> Chaos Warshrine w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span> - 150pts <br /> <br /> Total: 1000pts <br /> <br /> I think I might change the load on the sorcerer too.  I need to look through the book again though.<br /> <br /> <br /> <span style="font-size: 9px; line-height: normal;">Automatically Appended Next Post:</span><br /> How about this build?<br /> <br /> Hero: <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 2 Sorcerer w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, book of secrets, spell familiar, necrotic phylactery - 190pts ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Dec 2010 04:13:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ boogeyman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I dunno. I HATE the book of secrets for that <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(24);'>d6</span>+1 on the miscast table, but that's just me being defensive again.<br /> <br /> Definitely keep the Blasted Standard around though. So good. So cool.<br /> <br /> A solid list, though. Both versions.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Dec 2010 07:28:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Warpsolution]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If I may ask, why 13 on the Khorne warriors block? and I agree about the blasted standard, new thoug I may be, I grasp the greatness of that thing, the only reason I didn't take it was because I was trying to squeeze another two khorne wariors into the list]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Dec 2010 12:35:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Heinrich]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I really didn't have a reason for 13 other than the fact it is one more model you can lose and still disrupt with a flank/rear charge.  You could drop him and throw in 2 more hounds.<br /> <br /> That was my bad on the book of secrets too.  For some reason I was flipping the miscast chart in my head and thinking the lower numbers were better.  Not sure what I would replace it with though, maybe drop the phylactery too for the crown of command. <img src="/s/i/a/8f7b3f87df347f2cf6c1e7d5e119a067.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 29 Dec 2010 15:30:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote class="uncited"><div><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 2 Sorcerer w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, book of secrets, spell familiar, necrotic phylactery - 190pts</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Book of Secrets now makes you a Level 1 Wizard; it's in the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span>. The changes to BoS make it so that the only suitable candidates are exalted heroes or level 1 sorcerers.<br /> <br /> The list itself seems fine; i'm not a huge advocate of Warhounds, especially since they don't break ranks anymore unless run in a unit of 10+ They're only really good at harassing flankers, but their lack of reliable armour means that it's easy for them to get shot to pieces; marauder cavalry is more reliable.<br /> <br /> I'm tempted to say put the blasted standard on the halberd unit; your sword and board warriors already have a 3+/6++ against missiles, and since they're more of an anvil, they're going to be in combat for most of the game. Your halberds are menacing and deadly; perfect candidates for a stone thrower or bolt thrower etc. and since they're aimed at killing whatever they meet in combat, they'll provide a better target than your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(59);'>HW</span>/S warriors.<br /> <br /> Your sorcerer set-up seems fine from here. You might try to find a way of grabbing some sort of armour (since a chaos sorcerer is one of the rare wizards that can take magical armour) to defend against challenges (remember, your characters cannot refuse challenges and must issue them when possible); alternatively; you could swap out conjoined homonculus for stream of corruption.<br /> <br /> Since breath weapons can now be used in combat (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(1);'>2D6</span> auto hits at the attacking model's initiative; in this case a solid 5), <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(651);'>SoC</span> can be used to devestating effect in challenges. Sure, it's S3, but it's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(1);'>2D6</span> automatic hits with a nice -1 armour modifier. Since most challenges will come from 2 wound models at this points level, all but the hardiest should struggle to survive a good <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(651);'>SoC</span>.<br /> <br /> The warshrine is fine.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ gotcha thanks for the input, I'll have to play around with the stream of corruption bit for sure.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Brother Heinrich]]></author>
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