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				<title>General question regarding WoC and 8th</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I've seen many <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> lists on here and on Youtube, and I always still seem to see <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>'s in the list without a magic banner. I was wondering why they would do this with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> already getting the re-roll on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> test. Am I missing something?<br /> <br />  I have yet to roll a single dice in Fantasy since I think 3rd edition. Long time Fantasy player here just whos been building a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> list for about 1.5 years just casually painting it up.<br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks,<br /> <br /> -Skawt]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Dec 2010 02:56:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Skawt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Taking a magic banner prevents the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> from taking defensive magic items.  Not having a ward save is too big a risk for most players.  Besides - the warrior units can take most magic banners.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Dec 2010 02:59:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ RanTheCid]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ So its basically just used as +1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(173);'>CR</span>, since just about everything gets to re-roll <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(82);'>LD</span> because of whatever that rule is called?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Dec 2010 03:59:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Skawt]]></author>
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				<title>General question regarding WoC and 8th</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Warriors get to re-roll panic thanks to Will of Chaos.  The <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> helps cover them for swift reforms, combat reforms, fear checks, and probably most importantly, break tests.  Lots of utility there, and that doesn't even include the combat resolution bonus.<br /> <br /> Unless you have an army that can reasonably hide it's <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> in a unit that won't get engaged early, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> should often have good protective gear.  And as RantheCid pointed out, standard warrior units can take most of the magic banners you might need.  <br /> <br /> The only reasons I can think to put a magic banner on a Warriors <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> is if you really wanted:<br /> - One of the expensive banners (like doom totem)<br /> - Two double up effects (make a unit armor piercing and flaming)<br /> - A flexible boost (like a flaming banner that can switch units depending on the threat)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Dec 2010 04:01:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Red_Zeke]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I see.<br /> <br /> I didn't realize that Will of Chaos didn't cover all those, guess I must have overlooked it, now it makes sense. Thank you very much.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Dec 2010 15:52:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Skawt]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Or you could take THROGG with a bunch of monsters / monstrous infantry, and re-roll your break tests near him (acting as a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> to those types of units) <img src="/s/i/a/c614b4720f1b7225b0523f616ac30b2f.gif" border="0">. But it's only for break tests... stupidity tests, ugh <img src="/s/i/a/053f30f6773034eb25223d86f0e00d8d.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> But yes, the prevalence of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> army lists (considered by many to be a required staple now) are primarily for re-rolling break tests in combat, although it's wasted on panic checks for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> since any unit with Will of Chaos can re-roll those, anyway!<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 28 Dec 2010 17:19:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ RiTides]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Either is good, but the optimal <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> is Tzeentch with some sort of ward like the talisman of endurance for the 5++ that is now a 4++. That is if it is not on your general.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Jan 2011 01:44:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Hashulaman]]></author>
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				<title>General question regarding WoC and 8th</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Having tried out a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> for the first time in my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> list this weekend, I'm in love. Re-rolling stupidity... yes, please!<br /> <br /> The 4+ ward save item, mark of tzeentch (making it a 3+ ward save) and the charmed shield (ignore first hit on a 2+) seem to be really popular. I had one on disc and the extra manueverability was great, although I'll probably try a juggernaut version as well.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:36:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ RiTides]]></author>
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