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(new to tyranids, excuse me)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2283996.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2283996.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284015.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284015.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284029.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284035.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284035.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284040.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284040.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex?
Samus_aran115 wrote:Despite being 25 points, I like them. A carnifex is Initiative one anyway, and those extra attacks seem worth it to me. So what does dakka think about them? Also, are toxin sacs worth anything on carnifexes? They seem pretty pointless, since you wound everything on like a 2+ anyway :3

(new to tyranids, excuse me)


Crushing Claws are simply not worth the points on a 'fex. Here's your mathhammer(assumming 4+ To Hit)...

2xScything Talons=3 hits(2 hits on 4 attacks on initial roll,1 additional hit on the reroll)

1xScything Talons+Crushing Claws=3.5 hits(average Claw bonus of 2 attacks,3 hits on 6 attacks on Initial roll,1 50/50 reroll,hence the .5)

25 points simpy isn't worth an extra .5 hit per close combat,especially when you're losing I3 on the charge due to Living Battering Ram.

Toxin Sacs actually aren't an upgrade at all,per the mathhammer,in most all circumstances(assuming 2+ to Wound)

Strength 9=83.3% chance to wound,pops T4 or less

Toxin Sacs(4+)=75% chance to wound

Adrenal Glands are way better than Toxin Sacs for a 'fex. Combining Furious Charge and Living Battering Ram,you can get I4 on a charge,which will get you to simu-strike against most creatures. S10 on a charge is also helpful for vehicle penetration and popping T5.

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So for my carnifex, I'm thinking:
Stranglethorn Cannon
Scything Talons
Adrenal Glands

I'd go for double scything talons, but I don't own two sets =/ I know shooting isn't a carnifex's main job, but my army is rather Assaulty, and some shooty would be nice. Plus, stranglethorn cannons are cool.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284142.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284142.page GMT Re:Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284165.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284165.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? But so are HVCs.

The carnifex kit is great, IMO. It comes with literally every option in the book, unlike basically everything else in the codex.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284188.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284188.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284237.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284237.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex?
Samus_aran115 wrote:Yeah, that makes sense. I'll just magnetize it, the more I think about it. Large blasts are cool But so are HVCs.

The carnifex kit is great, IMO. It comes with literally every option in the book, unlike basically everything else in the codex.


Yeah,if you can magnetize it,then you can play around with different options and figure out what works best in your play environment and with your list. Stranglethorn Cannon is great against horde armies,like Orcs. Heavy Venom Cannon is better if you play against a lot of mechanized armies,but you may not neccessarily need it if your army has plenty of other transport busting units,like Hive Guard and Zoeys. If you have good anti-tank already,you may want to use the Stranglethorn Cannon instead,and use those units to bust transports and then use the 'fex to drop a pie plate on them. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284390.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284390.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? IMHO, a Brood of 2 Carnifexes works well with a pair of Trygons, who will move faster and provide the immediate threat whilst the Carnifexes remain relatively unharmed...]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284698.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284698.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex?
Rule No.1 of 40k is have fun, so I say go with the claws.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284726.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2284726.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex?
Now a Tervigon with crushing claws on the other hand is altogether different. You can't lose initiative with him anyway. Take him as a Troops choice, use the Hive Tyrant to outflank him and when he comes on against static vehicle gun-line type armies (looking at you IG) he's doing monstrous creature rear armor penetration with extra attacks, squatting on an objectives they place on their side of the board and polluting the deployment zone with spawned gaunts.

Fun stuff when used in the right lists.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2285582.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2285582.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2285902.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2285902.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex?
Screamer-Killer is getting 4+ hits 63.28% of the time.
Claw-fex . . . . is getting 4+ hits 50.00% of the time, 6+ hits 06.25% of the time.
Trygon . . . . . is getting 4+ hits 99.60% of the time, 6+ hits 82.21% of the time.

See all the numbers here.
http://lyracian.blogspot.com/2010/09/mathhammer-for-hive-mind.html

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Trygons are hilarious against all manner of infantry, especially when they regenerate, but C. Fexes are mostly tank hunters. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2287334.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2287334.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? extra 2D6 attacks, even though the C. Claw rules have changed for 5th Edition.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2287547.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2287547.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2287562.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2287562.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? HVC and stranglethorn). Otherwise there's really no point to adding them, because you aren't gaining much for the points, ontop of losing I3/4 on the charge which something figured into a carnifexes cost as well.

Now, whether that 210 multipuprose carnifex is worth the cost is another matter. I would say no personally but I am not a fan of HVCs or stranglethorns to begin with.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2287747.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2287747.page GMT Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2287982.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2287982.page GMT Re:Crushing Claws on a Carnifex? Cc weapons if she wants as long as she tells me what they are. Sometimes Ive seen the extra attacks actually be worth it, but yea, it seems to me that 25pts for those is a bit of a waste, especially on something as powerful as a carnifex]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2288223.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/337042/2288223.page GMT