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				<title>Ultimate Kan Wall</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This list does not purport to be the Ultimate Ork army list; however, it does have a reasonable claim on being the ultimate Kan Wall. Read on.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Big Mek: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> - 85 points<br /> Big Mek: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> - 85 points<br /> <br /> Troops<br /> Spanna Boyz x 19: Shootas, Mek w/burna - 134 points<br /> Spanna Boyz x 19: Shootas, Mek w/burna - 134 points<br /> Spanna Boyz x 20: Shootas, Mek w/burna - 140 points<br /> Spanna Boyz x 20: Mek w/burna - 140 points<br /> <br /> Dred Mob x 2: Klaw x 4 - 210 points<br /> Dred Mob x 1: Big Shoota, Scorcha - 95 points<br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> Killa Kan Attack Mob x 5: Rokkits - 250 points<br /> Killa Kan Attack Mob x 5: Rokkits - 250 points<br /> Killa Kan Attack Mob x 5: Rokkits - 250 points<br /> <br /> Heavy Support<br /> Lootas x 5: 75 points<br /> Lootas x 5: 75 points<br /> Lootas x 5: 75 points <br /> <br /> If something doesn't look right, keep in mind that this is an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span> list<br /> <br /> This list was good fun at 1850 with twelve Kans; it should be even more at 2000 (1998) with FIFTEEN! I just got the last three Kans today, so it will be a little while before I can play this, but it almost certainly will happen and soon.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What is a Spanna Boy? What is an <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span> list?<br /> I wanna help but not familiar with what you have here. Lootas are elites, kans are heavy. Does this have something to do with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span>? Mek's over Nobs with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>'s seems off putting. How are you going to pop anything with more than 12AV. A little explanation would help ]]></description>
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				<title>Re:Ultimate Kan Wall</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span> = Imperial Armour Volume Eight:The Raid on Kastorel-Novem<br /> <br /> The list uses the Dred Mob army list contained in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span>, and is not a Codex:Orks list.<br /> <br /> Spanna Boyz are troops. They are basically Ork Boyz with a limit of 20 and no Nob option, only a Mek.<br /> <br /> Deff Dred Mobs are troop choices as well and may be fielded with up to three Dreds per mob.<br /> <br /> Killer Kan Attack Mobs are Fast Attack and are three to five in size.<br /> <br /> Lootas are Heavy Support.<br /> <br /> The list has 25 Dreadnought Power Klaws; I don't think AV12+ is a big issue.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:26:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not to be difficult, but reviewing non-codex lists are problematic because (and this is just my impression) they're basically the guys at Forge World going "Hey, wouldn't this be cool?"<br /> <br /> Since they aren't generally used in tournaments and they don't seem to be that play-tested before release (to the extent anything <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> releases is play tested, mind you) it's difficult to offer advice on non-codex lists.<br /> <br /> That said, any list with 15 kans can't be that bad!]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Would it be possible to outfit a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> on your Meks because with only 20 guys there is a good chance you will far below 11 pretty easily.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:46:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, its a cool list.<br /> Could you please post a corresponding  (approximate) list which is conform with the Orks:codex?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 5 Jan 2011 14:57:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Ultimate Kan Wall</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ @Doctor Optimal: Cool is pretty much the point; it's not a serious list.<br /> <br /> @skycapt44: No, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> is not an available option. Spanna Boyz are a weak link in the list, but Deff dreds aren't really good units either and they can't even hold objectives.<br /> <br /> @Wuestenfux: Okay.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span><br /> Big Mek: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> - 85 points<br /> Big Mek: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> - 85 points<br /> <br /> Elites<br /> Lootas x 5: 75 points<br /> Lootas x 5: 75 points<br /> Lootas x 5: 75 points <br /> <br /> Troops<br /> Boyz x 30: Shootas, Rokkits x 3; Nob, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> - 250 points<br /> Boyz x 30: Shootas, Rokkits x 3; Nob, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> - 250 points<br /> Boyz x 30: Big Shoota x 3; Nob, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> - 235 points<br /> Gretchin x 16: Runtherd - 58 points<br /> <br /> Fast Attack<br /> Deff Kopta: Buzzsaw, rokkits - 70 points<br /> Deff Kopta: Buzzsaw, rokkits - 70 points<br /> Warbuggies x 2: Rokkits - 70 points<br /> <br /> Heavy Support<br /> Killa Kans x 3: Rokkits - 150 points<br /> Killa Kans x 3: Rokkits - 150 points<br /> Killa Kans x 3: Rokkits - 150 points<br /> <br /> This is my 1850 Codex Kan-Wall list. To increase it to 2,000 points, I could either add more Boyz or possibly a Deff Dred.<br /> <br /> It's not nearly as impressive as the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span> list.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 6 Jan 2011 01:54:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ pzbw7z]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Erm normal Kan will list. Pretty good but nothing really different from a normal codex one. Don't get me wrong I like it and it's good but nothing differernt from the next one besides I.A units to make it the "ultimate" kan wall list. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 6 Jan 2011 15:24:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>mercer wrote:</cite>Erm normal Kan will list. Pretty good but nothing really different from a normal codex one. Don't get me wrong I like it and it's good but nothing differernt from the next one besides I.A units to make it the &quot;ultimate&quot; kan wall list. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> 15 &gt; 9. It actually makes a pretty sizable difference. Other than the bigger Kan units, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span> changes are mostly nerfs. One could argue that Deff Dred mobs are a bit of a buff I suppose.<br /> <br /> The only other thing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span> has that's appealing is the Maga Dred but the points cost and the monetary cost are both off-putting.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 6 Jan 2011 22:35:11]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Mega Dread does indeed look awesome! <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:34:17]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>pzbw7z wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>mercer wrote:</cite>Erm normal Kan will list. Pretty good but nothing really different from a normal codex one. Don't get me wrong I like it and it's good but nothing differernt from the next one besides I.A units to make it the &quot;ultimate&quot; kan wall list. </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> 15 &gt; 9. It actually makes a pretty sizable difference. Other than the bigger Kan units, the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span> changes are mostly nerfs. One could argue that Deff Dred mobs are a bit of a buff I suppose.<br /> <br /> The only other thing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(749);'>IA8</span> has that's appealing is the Maga Dred but the points cost and the monetary cost are both off-putting.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I really like the lifta-droppa wagons, the grot tanks, and the Big Mek special character, though I can't recall his name right now.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 7 Jan 2011 15:48:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>augustus5 wrote:</cite>I really like the lifta-droppa wagons, the grot tanks, and the Big Mek special character, though I can't recall his name right now.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Lifta-Droppa wagon is more points than a Chaos Land Raider. Grot tanks are Fast Attack and so are Killa Kan Attack Mobs, that choice is too easy. Buzzgob has no <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span>.]]></description>
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