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				<description><![CDATA[ i have been writing list after list and this is what i came up with.  <br /> <br /> Sorcerer Lord:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MOT</span><br /> Tailsman of preservation<br /> Charmed Shield<br /> Spell Familiar<br /> Disc<br /> Third Eye<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MOT</span><br /> Shield/halberd<br /> Book of Secrets<br /> Dispel Scroll<br /> <br /> Exalted (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(44);'>gen</span>):<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span><br /> Sword of Swift Slaying<br /> Enchanted Shield<br /> Favor of the Gods<br /> <br /> 29 Warriors:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MOT</span><br /> Shields/Halberds<br /> Stan/Musician<br /> Banner of Rage<br /> <br /> 29 Warriors:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span><br /> Shields/Halberds<br /> Stan/Musician<br /> Standard of Dicipline<br /> <br /> 40 Marauders<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span><br /> Full Command<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s<br /> <br /> 1 Hellcannon<br /> <br /> 1 Warshrine <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MOT</span> <br /> <br /> What are your oppinions?<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ expectat mortem]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>expectat mortem wrote:</cite>i have been writing list after list and this is what i came up with.  <br /> <br /> Sorcerer Lord:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MOT</span><br /> Tailsman of preservation<br /> Charmed Shield<br /> Spell Familiar<br /> Disc<br /> Third Eye<br /> <br /> <font color='cyan'>Give him Bloodcurdling Roar for awesomeness. Just be careful with who you place/move him. It might be worth replacing the Spell Familiar with Blood of Tzeentch instead, since you have a pretty good chance of getting the spells you want anyway and BoT helps you prevent nuking yourself at the wrong moments.</font><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MOT</span><br /> Shield/halberd<br /> Book of Secrets<br /> Dispel Scroll<br /> <br /> <font color='cyan'>Don't take the BoS, especially on a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>. You don't get the extra PD anymore and miscasts <u><i>suck</i></u> with it. If you want the Dispell Scroll, just get another sorcerer. A support Lore of Fire Sorcerer has served me well thus far since <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> next to no shooting. It's better to get defensive items on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>. I like giving mine <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Tal of Endurance, Sword of Might, and a shield. Gives him +3/++4 saves and he is no slouch in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span> with S6.</font><br /> <br /> Exalted (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(44);'>gen</span>):<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span><br /> Sword of Swift Slaying<br /> Enchanted Shield<br /> Favor of the Gods<br /> <br /> <font color='cyan'>Interesting. Again, I'd try to get a ward in there.</font><br /> <br /> 29 Warriors:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MOT</span><br /> Shields/Halberds<br /> Stan/Musician<br /> Banner of Rage<br /> <br /> <font color='cyan'>Tzeentch save us, that is a <i>lot </i>of warriors in a unit! You don't need anywhere near that many. 17(18 with char) in a 6x3 formation or 19(20 with char) in a 5x4 formation(for an anvil) should be just fine. Banner of Rage is counter productive on this unit. You can't parry when frenzied, so the unit won't get it's +5 parry. I like the Raptourous Standard for the ultimate anvil or the Razor Banner for some extra armor reduction on my Tz warriors. Champs are needed as an option to keep your characters out of challenges.</font><br /> <br /> 29 Warriors:<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span><br /> Shields/Halberds<br /> Stan/Musician<br /> Standard of Dicipline<br /> <br /> <font color='cyan'>See above concerning unit size and champs. I'd also give this unit shields for the extra armor vs shooting.</font><br /> <br /> 40 Marauders<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MOK</span><br /> Full Command<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>'s<br /> <br /> <font color='cyan'>Good unit. I like running mine with 42 guys in a 6x7 formation because I think that 25mm bases are too large for horde formation, but that's just my opinion.</font><br /> <br /> <br /> 1 Hellcannon<br /> <br /> <font color='cyan'>Good, maybe add a second if you have the points.</font><br /> <br /> 1 Warshrine <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MOT</span> <br /> <br /> <font color='cyan'>You could probably drop this if you need points. Just one warshrine is not going to do alot in an army w/o chosen, but it's not a bad choice.</font><br /> <br /> What are your oppinions?<br /> <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You'll save a bundle of points dropping some warriors. I'd look some of these suggestions:<br /> <br /> -Horsemen Marauders w/Flails to go after warmachines<br /> -Chaos Hounds for redirecting/speedbumps<br /> -Chaos Knights for a speedy hammer(s)<br /> -A second Hellcannon or Warshrine. One is good, two is better.<br /> -A Level 2 Fire Sorcerer with a Dispell Scroll<br /> -Jam the Infurnal Puppet in somewhere. "Sorry, your miscast result of 7 is now a 4. Enjoy your all expenses paid trip to the warp.  <img src="/s/i/a/6d3c0a908a3861135dfaebde91c0ecf6.gif" border="0">"]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 8 Jan 2011 01:54:30]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tzeentchling9]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2500 pt WOC tournament army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If you bring a second Hellcannon, remember the misfire table. Number 3 coupled with the Infernal puppet would be devastating and might perhaps save your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>Lvl</span> 4 from meeting Tzeentch in person.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ phogiston735]]></author>
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