<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive?"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? Warboss -125pts
Bike, Power Klaw

Nobz (x5) -270pts
Bikes, Stikkbombz, Big Choppas, 1x Waaagh Banner
Painboy -81pts
Bike, Stikkbombz, Orderly
*Count as troop choice because of Warboss*

Truckk 1 -45pts
Red Paint + Stikkbomb Chucka
Choppa Boyz (x11) -66pts
Nob -27pts
Big Choppa, Heavy Armor, Stikkbombz

Truckk 2 -45pts
Red Paint + Stikkbomb Chucka
Choppa Boyz (x11) -66pts
Nob -27pts
Big Choppa, Heavy Armor, Stikkbombz

Truckk 3 -45pts
Red Paint + Stikkbomb Chucka
Choppa Boyz (x11) -66pts
Nob -27pts
Big Choppa, Heavy Armor, Stikkbombz

Kommandos (x9)-205pts
Burna x2
Snikrot

Lootas (x5) -75pts

Deffkoptas w/ Twin Linked Rokkit Launchas(x3) -135pts
Deffkoptas w/ Twin Linked Rokkit Launchas(x3) -135pts
Deffkopta w/Buzzsaw (x1) -60pts

Total Points = 1500


Played orks some in 3rd. Now have a chaos army and looking to play with Orks again some. I'm pretty restless when it comes to armies..
I enjoy playing in tournaments and the local scene plays at 1500. Please, offer any suggestions, advice, or general comments.

I have not play tested this army, just built it on paper. I'm pretty certain the points/math is correct, let me know if you see a mistake.
The idea is obvious, rush forward with Trukks and Biker Nobz/Warboss (who can separate to target vehicles or problem areas if needed). The Bikes should be able to take out pretty much anything I send them after (I believe). If needed, the Deffkoptas can weaken their targets first, but their primary goal is to harass/kill transports and tanks.
Snikrot and his Kommandos will obviously come on somewhere on one of the enemy's edges and hopefully catch them being sloppy.
Snikrot and Kommandos probably aren't the best option for a competitive army.. I just kind of threw them in there because I think it could tie something up or cause him to keep something back to deal with this slight threat..

If playing a horde type army and not able to change army list, I'll probably have a tricky time winning but I think it'll just come down to tactics..
Thoughts?

4 Troop Choices
7 Bikes
3 Trukks
7 Deffkoptas
33 Boyz w/ 3 Nobz
Snikrot + 9 Kommandos w/ 2x power weapons
5 Lootas



]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2319949.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2319949.page GMT Re:1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? HQ? ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2320806.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2320806.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2320834.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2320834.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2320846.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2320846.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? I think the Kommandos could use the extra help, but am I lacking enough AT?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2320908.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2320908.page GMT Re:1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive?
Boss or one of the Nobs should probably have a Boss pole.

Nobs in Boyz mobs should have Klaws. I would recommend one or two in the Nob squad as well. The 'Eavy armor on the Nobs is probably not worth the points. Wound allocation will protect the Nob until it's too late anyway.

Snikrot is big fun, it must be said.

The Kopta squads would be better replaced with Buggies. Buggies are fearless and a little cheaper as well as immune to S3 weapons and pretty tough against S4. I do like Buzzkoptas, but I like them better with rokkits.

Of course there might be other good uses for the points spent on the Koptas, but rokkit buggies are worth considering.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2320910.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2320910.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? pk's on the nob bikers, considering theyre the hardest unit there.

In my experience koptas are hopeless.. they can take some shooting but useless at shooting, so if you're relying on them alot for tank hunting, don't lol.

If it was up to me id knock back the koptas, add in a battlewagon with rolla, add some pk''s to your nobz and additional komandos ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2321749.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2321749.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? PK's. No question about it. Any ork player will tell you a boys squad has a nob with PK and BP. Your NObs squad needs to have each nob unique for wound allocation. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2322123.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2322123.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive?
skycapt44 wrote:Best thing you should do first is get some PK's. No question about it. Any ork player will tell you a boys squad has a nob with PK and BP. Your NObs squad needs to have each nob unique for wound allocation.



Thanks for the suggestions guys!


Warboss -133pts
Bike, Power Klaw, shoota/rokkit kombi-weapon, ammo runt

Nobz (x5) -313pts
Nob 1- Bike, Big Choppa
Nob 2- Bike, Big Choppa, ammo runt
Nob 3- Bike, Big Choppa, Waaagh Banner
Nob 4- Bike, Power Klaw, Boss Pole
Nob 5- Bike, Power Klaw
Painboy -80pts
Bike, Orderly

Truckk 1 -152pts
Red Paint
Choppa Boyz (x11)
Nob
Power Klaw

Truckk 2 -152pts
Red Paint
Choppa Boyz (x11)
Nob
Power Klaw

Truckk 3 -152pts
Red Paint
Choppa Boyz (x11)
Nob
Power Klaw

Truckk 4 -152pts
Red Paint
Choppa Boyz (x11)
Nob
Power Klaw

Kommandos (x10)-215pts
Burna x2
Snikrot

Lootas (x5) -75pts
Lootas (x5) -75pts


Total Points = 1499

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Looted wagons are unreliable and over-priced.

Yes, Klaws in units are required. In general, a unit of boyz is a a delivery system for the Klaw. It's just a matter how how many extra wounds one attaches.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2323408.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2323408.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? PK.

You like?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2323633.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2323633.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2323640.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2323640.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? imo.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2323683.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2323683.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? RPJ.
Rams are top priority on Trukks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2324268.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2324268.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? Id drop one of the Biker Nobs and a Boy from one of the trucks and add a KFF Mek.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2324380.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2324380.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2325310.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2325310.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive?
Nobz are fine apart from Ammo Runt, pointless, take 'eavy armour at least then you'll use it if no cover save weapons come at you. Drop the Orderly and save some points..

I really do hate Trukks so bad, especially when they don't have a Big Mek with a KFF...

Switch the Crapammdos for more Bikers as you will need two units.

A better list would be:

Warboss - power klaw, kombi skorcha, attack squig & cybork body

Big Mek - KFF

5 x Lootas

5 x Lootas

5 x Nobz - Bikes and whatever

5 x Nobz - Bikes and whatever

11 x Orks w/ Trukk

12 x Orks w/ Trukk

12 x Orks w/ Trukk

12 x Orks w/ Trukk

Looking better now as you've got 4+ cover save on the Trukks and not using crappy Ammo Runts which re-roll to hit when you're bikes are twin-linked anyway, plus the Warboss will actually survive in combat.



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theduncan wrote:Drop RPJ.
Rams are top priority on Trukks.


This. Trucks should be bare 'cept for their Rams, IMO. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2325845.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2325845.page GMT 1500 Fast/Sneaky Orks- competitive? http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2325852.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/339277/2325852.page GMT