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So I've designed a wood elf list but wanted some feedback. I have about 50pts left over at the moment which I was thinking of using to equip the battle standard but I'm not sure how best to equip him.

The basic idea is i have the BSB & Lord in a unit of wardancers. It makes a small strong anvil which is able to dish out some pain. I had thought of giving the noble the amber pendant however with charging not giving you first strike I think this will be less of an issue for the elves who have higher inititave than most.

Any feedback on that or other parts of the list let me know.


Army List Points Limit: 2250
Army Type: Wood Elf
Army List Total Points: 2199

Qty Lords Items Points
1 Highborn Wardancer Kindred, Crown of Command, Blades of Loec, Annoyance of Netlings 290
1 Spellweaver Lv4 250

Sub Total 540
Qty Heroes Items
1 Noble Battle Standard Bearer 90

Sub Total 90
Core Units Equipment/Upgrades
10 Glade Guard 120
10 Glade Guard 120
10 Glade Guard 120
5 Glade Riders 120
8 Dryads 96
8 Dryads 96

Sub Total 672
Special Units Equipment/Upgrades
7 Wardancers Champion, Musician 147
7 Wardancers Musician, Champion 147
7 Wild Riders Standard, Champion, Musician 218

Sub Total 512
Rare Units Equipment/Upgrades
2 Great Eagles 100
1 Treeman 285

Sub Total 385

75 Models
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2335087.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2335087.page GMT 2250pt Wood Elves Wardancer led army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2336633.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2336633.page GMT 2250pt Wood Elves Wardancer led army BSB.

I like your wardancer highborn quite a bit! But it would help him a lot to get behind the enemy, so Unreal's idea has a lot of merit.

You have no "anvil" units- which is what used to be a sure-fire win for wood elves, but now leaves them vulnerable to simply being overpowered by the enemy.

I would also combine your wardancers into a single unit- they're going to take losses, and need to be able to continue to dish out attacks, so a second rank is really helpful for them.
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Also I don't think it is legal to have your BSB in a wardancer unit. I think the character has to be part of that kindred and a BSB can't have a kindred.

You might also want to add in another standard bearer in your list, you only have two. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2338116.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2338116.page GMT Re:2250pt Wood Elves Wardancer led army
If you combine the two then the points you save on the musician and champion you can get some banners on the GG units, gives you more of a chance in the breaking point scenario.

@boogeyman, I think it is legal for the BSB to go in with the Wardancers, I vaguely remember in the FAQ about non-wardancer characters being able to join Wardancer units, might be my memory or selective reading playing tricks on me again so will have to double check.

Would also like to ask why only 7 Wild Riders? Seems a strange number as if you can squeeze out enough points you may have enough for a rank bonus (if they don’t get shot to high heaven that is!)

Like the list though as I can see a Wardancer unit with the buffs from either Life or Beasts from your spellweaver could be quite nasty.
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At a 2250 I would try to ditch the glade riders and take the nobel i recommended. You could then also take another way watcher nobel in the same unit for another 105 points, so for 392 points you are getting:
10 S5 attacks
22 S4 attacks
These will go before most enemies and hit on 3s agianst most, so against your average T3 core you will be causing:
5.56 S5 wounds before armor and
9.76 S4 Wounds before armor.

If you hit the rear of any unit and do that kind of damage you have a good chance of taking them out. Plus if you catch them in trees they will lose their steadfast bonus for outranking you.

That is why i think the moonstone of the hidden ways will work the best in your army. It will provide a good all around unit. It can kill warmachines once your eagles die. It can also disrupt your enemy.

Try to use them once your dyrads are in range, so the enemy has a choice, to get rear charged by dyrads or by wardancers. If you can multicharge like that you should win most of your fights.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2342965.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2342965.page GMT 2250pt Wood Elves Wardancer led army BSB needs some defense, and so does the general.
You're dishing out a lot, but the unit (7 guys) and the characters, can't take it.
You won't be breaking steadfast for a few rounds, and you won't last long enough to break steadfast.
After the 1st round, you're S4 on the general, and S3 on the unit (what's left of them).

I say be sure to try this with proxy before you buy. I think it's not going to work like you think it is.


Units of 12 dryads work great. 18 S4 attacks is pretty good. I like the lore of beast for woodies too; the wizards are almost always on foot for a transformation option, and +1 S/T turns dryads into treekin quality troops (its like a 250 point upgrade in hitting power, for casting a signature spell!).

-Matt]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2343560.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2343560.page GMT Re:2250pt Wood Elves Wardancer led army
RiTides when you said I have no anvil units you were talking about wood elves in general? The treeman is a pretty good anvil and the wardancer unit is as well. I think a unit of Dryads might go allright as a psudo anvil (get charged, hit them first, hope I don't take many casualties).

The BSB in the wardancers is legal. Basically elves can't join forest spirits and vice versa. To join forest spirits you need to be one which all elvish characters can do if you want to spend the points.

I'll try another Wardancer Noble in the unit as well.

Moonstone sounds like a good idea. I'll give it to the Noble or BSB. Is there anything worth taking for 15pts? I don't have the rulebook (big one not army book) on me as I've lent it to a mate. I still need to equip the other one as well.

7 wild riders was because that's how I've run them previously. No other reason really. If I had some more points I'd up it to 10.

I'll try dropping a unit of Glade Guard rather than the glade riders for the points.

HawaiiMatt no need for me to proxy as I've already got pretty much all the models (from my 7th ed army). Regarding the 12 dryads you'd reccomend combining them to one unit of 12 rather than 2 units of 8? That gives me another 48 points to play with.

So any other thoughts?
I've still got 50pts left over so I can give the BSB some equipment. The heroslayer (sorry can't remember the name - +1s, +1a, I think it is 30pts) acompanied by a potion of strength maybe? Does it count champions as characters or my characters?

Here is the updated version

Army List Points Limit: 2250
Army Type: Wood Elf
Army List Total Points: 2198

Qty Lords Items Points
1 Highborn Wardancer Kindred, Crown of Command, Blades of Loec, Annoyance of Netlings 290
1 Spellweaver Lv4 250

Sub Total 540
Qty Heroes Items
1 Noble Battle Standard Bearer 90
1 Noble Wardancer Kindred, Moonstone of Hidden Ways 140

Sub Total 230
Core Units Equipment/Upgrades
10 Glade Guard 120
10 Glade Guard 120
5 Glade Riders 120
8 Dryads 96
8 Dryads 96

Sub Total 552
Special Units Equipment/Upgrades
14 Wardancers Champion, Musician 273
7 Wild Riders Standard, Champion, Musician 218

Sub Total 491
Rare Units Equipment/Upgrades
2 Great Eagles 100
1 Treeman 285

Sub Total 385

66 Models
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leighr3029 wrote:Regarding the 12 dryads you'd reccomend combining them to one unit of 12 rather than 2 units of 8? That gives me another 48 points to play with.

I've used units of 12 dryads a lot (also 14) and find that it is the best number. However, it struggles against anything with static combat resolution, and so has a lot fewer tempting targets in 8th. If you can find a forest to make them stubborn and disrupt ranks, it's much better!

On the BSB equipment, I'd give him survival rather than killy gear. The spellsinger also really wants an arcane item, even just a dispel scroll.

Will comment more later, but overall, you just need larger units! When I said there as a lack of an anvil, I meant such as treekin, eternal guard, or anything that can take a charge and hold. Your Treeman can do it, unless there's a nasty character involved. But from what I'm seeing, you just don't have a lot of power in any one phase. Balance is good, but I would want to maximize what you have.

I'd be tempted to make the eternal guard one unit, and I'd definitely give them the banner of eternal flame regardless. You'll need it to knock regeneration off of things! Flaming attacks are fantastic in 8th, for a measly 10 points.

I would probably make the glade riders into another unit of glade guard, instead. You'll be saving a few points if you combine the dryads into a unit of 12, as well, to get that gear onto your characters.

I'm not sure about the second wardancer kindred nobel, will have a think on what would be a good possibility to put in instead. Also, your back rank wardancers will only get 1 attack each, but they're also providing extra wounds to make sure you keep the front rank and get all those attacks.
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The razor standard should help you deal with any heavy armored troops. Remember WS 5 core with 2 base attacks is well worth the 12 points you spend.

They become even better if you can cast the Signature from the lore of beast. Then you are looking at a unit of Chaos warriors with gakky armor. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2347428.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2347428.page GMT 2250pt Wood Elves Wardancer led army ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2350177.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/340215/2350177.page GMT Re:2250pt Wood Elves Wardancer led army
I'll turn the two dryads into one and combine the archers (giving them the flame banner).

I can't give the weaver anything over 20pts unless if I turn her to Lv3 (over lord point limit) and her purpose is primarily magic defence. From what's been said beasts is the best option so is it worth leaving her as a 4 or dropping her to a lv3 for some magic items?

I'll go defensive on the BSB and give him the armour of silvered steel and a luckstone.

Here's the updated

Army List Points Limit: 2250
Army Type: Wood Elf
Army List Total Points: 2250

Qty Lords Items Points
1 Highborn Wardancer Kindred, Crown of Command, Blades of Loec, Annoyance of Netlings 290
1 Spellweaver Lv4 250

Sub Total 540
Qty Heroes Items
1 Noble Battle Standard Bearer, Armour of Silvered Steel, Luckstone 140
1 Noble Wardancer Kindred, Moonstone of Hidden Ways 140

Sub Total 280
Core Units Equipment/Upgrades
20 Glade Guard Musician, Standard, Banner of the Eternal Flame 268
10 Glade Guard 120
15 Dryads Branch Nymph 192

Sub Total 580
Special Units Equipment/Upgrades
14 Wardancers Champion, Musician 273
6 Wild Riders Standard, Champion, Musician 192

Sub Total 465
Rare Units Equipment/Upgrades
2 Great Eagles 100
1 Treeman 285

Sub Total 385

69 Models
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