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				<description><![CDATA[ As the title reads How do you run your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span>?  Do you run one or two?  Do you save the second spot for a Lord Commissar, a Primaris Psyker or a special character?<br /> <br /> The reason I ask is because when I read army lists for a mechanized vet list I rarely see more than 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> and the other slot is not used.<br /> <br /> Me personally I run:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> 4xPG, Chimera HHF.  (Sometimes a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>PP</span>, Carapace or Advisors)<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> 4xMG (in a Vendetta). <br /> <br /> The first gives my maim lime orders, the second gives my alpha strike element be it a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(695);'>SWS</span> or a MeltaVet squad some orders.<br /> <br /> How do you run yours?<br /> <br />  ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Mine is currently a 3xpg, vox, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>pp</span> and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(105);'>pf</span> squad in a chimera (<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(328);'>ML</span>/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(336);'>HF</span>). Backs up the 2 or 3 chim vets I have with orders when needed.<br /> <br /> I think the problem I have with 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>ccs</span></span> squads is the sillyness of it. Would you really have that many high ranking officers in a small force? Sometimes it can work if one is for an infantry company and the other for an aircav/mech company.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I run one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span>. I usually dont' have enough stuff worth giving useful orders to at any given period of time to really justify spending the extra points for them. If all I wanted was a special weapons squad, I'd take more PCSs for cheaper.<br /> <br /> Traditionally, I've run them with 3 meltaguns, but after game after game of them not actually meltagunning things, I've very recently switched over to a high power heavy weapon (like missile launcher or lascannon) and a master of ordnance. We'll see how that goes.<br /> <br /> Otherwise, I ran straken briefly, but didn't find him up to advertised levels of awesomeness in my particular list, and so eventually dropped him.<br /> <br /> I have run 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> choices in the form of a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> and a lord commissar before, but only when I have ogryn.<br /> <br /> <blockquote><div><cite>Trickstick wrote:</cite>I think the problem I have with 2 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>ccs</span></span> squads is the sillyness of it. Would you really have that many high ranking officers in a small force? Sometimes it can work if one is for an infantry company and the other for an aircav/mech company.</div></blockquote><br /> This is part of my problem as well.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I run 3x Melta in my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span>. 3 is good enough for Melta to do their job, especially when they're likely to pass their own order. I've had some occasions where they don't do much, like Ailaros said, but I've had them do more than their share in other occasions.<br /> <br /> I have a hybrid list, and I'm running two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span>, both with 4x Plasma. I went with this because I have three blobs and two <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(331);'>PCS</span>, so I didn't really need Veterans to give me more troops, plus <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> with 4x plasma is 5 points cheaper than Vets with 3x.<br /> <br /> Comparing <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(695);'>SWS</span> to <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> with plasmas: <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(695);'>SWS</span> with 3x plasma is 80 points. Two of them gives you 6 hits on average. A <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> with 4x plasma and a plasma pistol comes in 40 points cheaper for the same number of plasma hits. Yes, there's something to be said for flexibility, but if you're meched up in Chimeras, that's 95 more points, since you need an extra one.<br /> <br /> If you're comfortable with your number of troops, then nothing beats the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> for special weapons options.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Jan 2011 03:20:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've been trying Straken lately, so no fancy special weapon shenanigans for me. <br /> <br /> Usually I run mine with 4 Melta, but I've been thinking more and more about Plasma... I'll have to give it a whirl soon.<br /> <br /> I usually run 1. I prefer spending points on other things before doubling up on <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>'s. ]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Im running mine as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> x4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>pg</span> x1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>pp</span>, medic and chimera<br /> <br /> Terminator response squad<br /> <br /> &gt; : )]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I've been running mine as 4x melta +Krak/Melta. If I need the points, I start stripping from there.<br /> <br /> if I run two, which in 2000 point lists w/vets is a great idea, I run them as an all out plasma squad.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I run 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> w/ Las cannon, sniper and stealth.<br /> <br /> Its not too expensive, often pops things and the sniper rifle is just there as a ongoing joke with my friend (T1, rending shot against devastators, whole squad goes to ground <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:56:25]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Chaos Lord Gir]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Tophawtdog4411 wrote:</cite>Im running mine as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> x4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>pg</span> x1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>pp</span>, medic and chimera<br /> <br /> Terminator response squad<br /> <br /> &gt; : )</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> <br /> This is actually illegal. You can't have more than 3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span>'s if you include a medic.  Medic, Vox, Standard all take away a pecial weapon.<br /> <br /> Well fluff aside is there any reason not too?  I mean if you trully are writing a tournament list why would you not use the second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(124);'>SW</span> platform that can order itself?<br /> <br /> If I was not running the second <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> I would honestly run a melta/demo/VetSquad w/Bastonne just to ensure the target goes down.  But I feel it is too muxh of a point sink.  When for 30points more I can have 4 more <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(563);'>MG</span> and 2 orders.  Granted now I need two transports. But I normally run 2 anyways.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:56:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grix]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If I run one in a hybrid list, then it's:<br /> <br /> 4 plasma guns<br /> carapace armor<br /> astropath (if I have two or more things deep striking/outflanking)<br /> chimera with HHF<br /> <br /> If I run one in a mech list, then it's the same as above except one less plasma gun and the inclusion of a Standard.<br /> <br /> If it's a 2500+ point game, I consider running two.  The other one is going to be:<br /> Some sort of heavy weapon (usually a lascannon, though I also do a missile launcher)<br /> Standard<br /> <br /> He babysits the couple <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(59);'>HWS</span> I would set up to safeguard the closest hypothetical objective, and is ready to issue BID.  <br /> <br /> As far as the fluff perspective, I always pictured him another officer of (probably higher) rank.  He stays on the back field because he's not suicidal enough to get his hands as messy as Commander Lebedeff, and he's high enough rank that he doesn't need to worry about Lebedeff trying to get a commissar to frag him if he's not up there fighting just as hard.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:56:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:50:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Doctor Optimal]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Tophawtdog4411 wrote:</cite>Im running mine as <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> x4 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>pg</span> x1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(194);'>pp</span>, medic and chimera<br /> <br /> Terminator response squad<br /> <br /> &gt; : )</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You can't do that, a medic replaces one of the veterans.  So it would be 3x Plasma, Plasma Pistol, and Medic.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 26 Jan 2011 16:36:15]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Gavo]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Option A) 4 x plasmas. Plasma pistol if I've got the points spare.<br /> Option B) 3 x plasma, medic. Plasma pistol if I've got the points spare.<br /> <br /> L. Wrex]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Lycaeus Wrex]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[  One <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> only. The equipment and possible extra members ( Advisors etc. ) depend on the points limit and type of game ( normal, Apocalypse, Spearhead, Planetstrike ). Usually I start with a Dedicated Chimera and go from there.]]></description>
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