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				<title>beastmen help vs. bret.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ So, I just got my hairy ass handed to me in a 3000 p. game against bret. I want every bit of heindsight knowledge you can provide me with. If bret. has any weaknes I can use to my advantage, I'd like to know.<br /> To my recallection he had:<br /> 40 men-at-arms f.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>cmd</span>. + damsel <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 life + feedback scroll<br /> 2*20 bowmen<br /> 2 trebuchets<br /> 5 yeomen music.<br /> 2*3 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> f.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>cmd</span>.<br /> 9 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(621);'>QK</span> f.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>cmd</span>. <br /> 12 KoR f.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>cmd</span>. + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span> w. virtue of empathy<br /> 8 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> w. valorous standard + prophetess <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 4 life w. silver mirror<br /> lord on pegasus w. gauntlet of duel, gromril helm, birthsword, virtue of conf., HA, shield.<br /> <br /> I had:<br /> 33 gors AHW f.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>cmd</span>. + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 shaman beast. w. dispel scroll, AHW + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span> w. beastbanner <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(400);'>AS</span> 2+<br /> 25 gors AHW f.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>cmd</span>. + <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 3 shaman shadow. w. stone of spite, power scroll, gouge-tusks, AHW<br /> 20 gors AHW f.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>cmd</span> (ambush)<br /> 3*5 raiders w. music.<br /> 20 b.gors f.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>cmd</span>. razor standard + b.lord w HA, talis. of pres., enchanted shield, ram. helm, sword of might, ironcurse icon.<br /> 20 b.gors f.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>cmd</span>. totem of rust.<br /> 6 mino.AHW f.<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(184);'>cmd</span>, bloodkine w. biting blade<br /> 5 harpies<br /> 3 razorgors<br /> <br /> Without making it into a battlereport, I'm going to highlight som key moments.<br /> Ambushers rolls snakeeyes on an 8" charge, on a treb, later being blocked by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>.<br /> I redirect his <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span> w harpies, moves <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 3 wizard out of the unit and charge his <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>GK</span>.<br /> Use stone of spite w ir.force. both his wizards has arcene gear destroyed. both suffer only 1 s4 hit each <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 4 saves <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 does not FUUUUU.... nothing happens on miscast.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(305);'>Gk</span> break 25 gors and overruns, lvl3 sham. panics. bret.lord overrun shaman in turn 2.<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> charge b.gors w t. of rust. b.gors gets frenzy, but only manages to deal 1 wound. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> breaks b.gors and overrun.<br /> He avoids minos. and general bunker, these units end up fighting his infantry. Each turn he picks of a few wounds with magic or trebs.<br /> <br /> Perhaps these "moments" doesn't offer much of an overall idea, on how the game went down but, in my view, it is these events that let to my defeat. I really need advice on how to get through that 2+ armoursave. Most the time even with 2 attacks on each mode,l I could only kill 1 at best 2 with s4 at one time s5, on my 33 gors with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span>. It was only by pure luck that the unit stayed in combat for 3 turns before being destroyed.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Jan 2011 14:14:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ snapsepaven]]></author>
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				<title>beastmen help vs. bret.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ i think that you'll have to try and break his units rather than destroy them.'<br /> use flank charges by chariots 3-4.<br /> some miotaurs would be good as well.<br /> finally what i find best but difficult is 2 mages, 1 shadow <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2<br /> 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 4 with death. first you use shadow and drop his I, then cast purple sun....... the rest i live to your imagination.<br /> <br /> hope i helped.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 30 Jan 2011 23:09:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ rockabill-gr]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah shadow combined with death sounds good. About the chariots I don't know, I just see them beeing taken out by <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>. Was thinking that Taurox or Slugtounge could do a number on Brets. 5 minotaurs w. <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span>. and Taurox, and 5 minotaurs w AHW. gorebull <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>bsb</span> w. beast banner]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 31 Jan 2011 20:00:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ snapsepaven]]></author>
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				<title>Re:beastmen help vs. bret.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ If it make you feel any better... that looks like a pretty hardcore torunament list he was running. I'm not familiar with Beastmen but your list looks a bit... softer. That could make all the difference, when your opponent brings all his big toys and you don't.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 1 Feb 2011 02:51:12]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Vulcan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I might suggest another unit of harpies for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(197);'>WM</span> hunting.<br /> <br /> Might not be bad to put in some chariots either smash up the flanks and freak out those little knights.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Feb 2011 02:12:29]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ blak43]]></author>
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				<title>Re:beastmen help vs. bret.</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Chariots sound good. You want to strand his units and grind them down/break them individually. Maybe try a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(347);'>lvl</span> 2 bray shaman with skin of man, lore of death and a power stone/scroll for a suicide attempt at getting purple sun off on your first turn in his back yard? Risky yes but will be a BIG distraction.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Feb 2011 08:54:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Lexx]]></author>
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