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Company command Squad [100][lascannon, Master of Ordinance]

Troops
Veteran Squad [180][Power Weapon, 3 plasma guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [170][3 plasma guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [155][3 Melta guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [155][3 Melta guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [115][Power Fist, 3 Melta guns]
Veteran Squad [150][harker, 3 grenade launchers, Autocannon ]

Fast
valkyrie [145][lascannon, MRP's]

Heavy
leman Russ [165][lascannon]
leman Russ [165][lascannon]

Total: 1500]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2391959.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2391959.page GMT 1500 IG mech comp
1.) Your vet squad with Harker should be about mobility. Drop the autocannon.

2.) Why a power fist with your 5th Vet squad? If you're going to be assaulting with that squad, consider flamers instead of melta. Also: Shotguns. Also: Why are you assaulting with IG? If you want to assualt vehicles, drop the fist, pick up demolitions. You're just not going to be hurting vehicles reliably with a str 6. With Demolitions, you've got 9 krak grenades and a meltabomb to muck up a vehicle's day.

3.) You're mixing weapons on the Valkire. Drop the lascannon, add on bolters.

4.) If you're looking for serious anti-tank, upgrade to vanquishers instead of vanilla LMR. Otherwise, stick with Heavy bolters for anti infantry.

5.) Again with the power weapon in squad 2. If you're going to assualt, take assault weapons, not rapid fire, or heavy.

Everything else looks good.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2392159.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2392159.page GMT 1500 IG mech comp
Otherwise, those vets that have to walk in an otherwise all-mech list are going to be sad.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2392271.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2392271.page GMT 1500 IG mech comp CC-oriented upgrades on the Vets are almost a total waste. It looks like your Harker squad is set up to infiltrate and pour fire into infantry. I used to do this, but it never qutie worked out the way I wanted. Mine was set up with 3x Snipers, before I realized that I hated snipers, so maybe that was a problem. Still, though, they never were as effective as I wanted.

Lonecoon wrote:3.) You're mixing weapons on the Valkire. Drop the lascannon, add on bolters.

4.) If you're looking for serious anti-tank, upgrade to vanquishers instead of vanilla LMR. Otherwise, stick with Heavy bolters for anti infantry.


I highly disagree with giving HBs to Valks. One of the benefits of the MRP setup of a Valk is that you can move 12" and still fire all the weapons, since the MRPs are defensive. If you add HBs, either you lose your mobility advantage, or you still move 12" and don't use your sponsons. The 10 points are more likely to be better spent elsewhere.

Vanquishers suffer from being 1-shot BS 3. So half the time, your big expensive cannon does absolutely nothing. With a Str 8 blast, you can hit infantry, and still not be shabby at breaching medium armor, what with picking the highest of 2d6. I think the "serious anti-tank" is coverd by three MeltaVet squads.

Although, you have plenty of troops for this points level, it might be worth thinking about converting a Melta Vet squad into a group of 5 Stormtroopers with Meltas (or two). They'd add some pinpoint melta action, if you were worried about being able to take out a tank in the opponent's backfield.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2392460.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2392460.page GMT 1500 IG mech comp
gendoikari87 wrote:Every model I own.

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Company command Squad [100][lascannon, Master of Ordinance]


I really don't like this setup at all. With the way Veteran's in Chimera's generally work, you want your CCS to be right next to them. Yes you can't give them orders while they are in Chimera's but generally if you really want to kill something you will dump the Melta/Plasma Vets out and shoot up the enemy vehicle or infantry. This is when you really want your CCS to be pretty close to provide the very useful BiD or FomT orders. Personally I would dump the MoO and the LC in exchange for 4 Melta's or Plasma's and give this squad a Chimera.

gendoikari87 wrote:Troops
Veteran Squad [180][Power Weapon, 3 plasma guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [170][3 plasma guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [155][3 Melta guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [155][3 Melta guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [115][Power Fist, 3 Melta guns]
Veteran Squad [150][harker, 3 grenade launchers, Autocannon ]


As other noted the PW and the PF are kind of a big waste here. They will not be used much at all, the PW is with a squad of Vets that all have rapid fire weapons so you will never get to charge and shoot your target prior. The Fist really never does much. Attacking last is never a good thing and St6 is not high enough to do much. Not only that but with Vets only being 10men strong they will probably be broken in the first turn of combat unless you assault Tau/Pathfinders/(stick horrible CC unit here).

I would dump the PW, the PF and give all the Vet Squads that have Melta's shotguns.

Now with regards to Harker, personally I like it. I have used it to much effectiveness (more in being able to take fire) with that same setup. 3Str5 shots, 3Str6 shots and 2Str7 shots is nothing too laugh at, especially when they are in cover granting them a 3+, 3++(except against flamers) cover save.

I would honestly get rid of Vet Squad 5 in exchange for another CCS with 4 meltas to ride in your flyer.

gendoikari87 wrote:Fast
valkyrie [145][lascannon, MRP's]


Drop the LC. Valkyries are run with ML and MRP's and MAYBE HB's. If you want anti-tank take a Vendetta.

gendoikari87 wrote:Heavy
leman Russ [165][lascannon]
leman Russ [165][lascannon]


I would take the LC's off.

gendoikari87 wrote:Total: 1500


What I would do with this list:

-LC's on Leman Russ' +30
-LC on Valkyrie +15
-PF Vet Squad +115
-PW on Vet Squad +10
-MoO +30
-LC in CCS +20

Total is 220 points.

Changes not costing points:

Plasma Vet Squad take away their Chimera and give it to CCS
Change Valkyrie to Vendetta
Give all Chimera's HHF instead of HHB

With those points I would do the following:

Give the CCS 4xPG -60
Change the GL in Harker's squad to PG -30
Give the PG Vet Squad w/o the Chimera infiltrating doctrine -30
Give the PG Vet Squad w/o the Chimera an AC -10
Buy another CCS with 4xMG to ride in the Vendetta/Valkyrie -90

Total points: 220

This set up gives you mobility on your CCS's, ensures that Harker's squad is not alone in the world, 2 Vet Squads with PG/AC and 1 HB can anchor a flank on their own allowing the rest of your force to remain mobile.

Thats what I would do.

GL

Grix.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2392993.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2392993.page GMT 1500 IG mech comp
Ailaros wrote:If you drop harker, the autocannon, and the one random power weapon and power fist on those non-stubborn squads, you'll have enough points to buy two more chimeras.


No I won't, I've only got two bucks in my account.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2393485.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2393485.page GMT 1500 IG mech comp
gendoikari87 wrote:
Ailaros wrote:If you drop harker, the autocannon, and the one random power weapon and power fist on those non-stubborn squads, you'll have enough points to buy two more chimeras.


No I won't, I've only got two bucks in my account.


Well, there's not much you can do if you can't manage to scratch-build, convert, borrow, or buy models.

The only think I can even think of is what I mentioned earlier, changing a couple Melta Vet Squads into deepstriking Stormtroopers squads of 5 guys with 2 meltas. That'll give you the chimera and two meltas to give to your CCS, so they can roll around with the rest of the guys. You'll have to cut a couple points here and there, but you've got plenty of upgrades that could be sacrificed.

Other than that, good job and good luck with what you have.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2394209.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2394209.page GMT Re:1500 IG mech comp LRBT's with hull lascannon's are invaluble. Several times I've had it destroy a vehicle and force a unit to flee in the same turn. Not 100% sold on the way I have my CCS, and TBH the power fist and sword were there as points fillers. I do like having five vet squads in vehicles though. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2394621.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2394621.page GMT 1500 IG mech comp http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2394665.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2394665.page GMT Re:1500 IG mech comp HWS next, or another leman russ. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2394751.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2394751.page GMT 1500 IG mech comp
gendoikari87 wrote:Every model I own.

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Company command Squad [100][lascannon, Master of Ordinance]


Lascannon ain't too bad with BS4 but when everything else is mobile it's not a good setup. MoO is also rubbish. Give mass specials and a Chimera.

Troops
Veteran Squad [180][Power Weapon, 3 plasma guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [170][3 plasma guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [155][3 Melta guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [155][3 Melta guns, Chimera]
Veteran Squad [115][Power Fist, 3 Melta guns]
Veteran Squad [150][harker, 3 grenade launchers, Autocannon ]


Troop squads 1, 4 & 5 are setup wrong. Guard don't do combat so a power weapon/fist are not beeded and having a heavy weapon to go with mobility it bad; Harker isn't that good either.

Fast
valkyrie [145][lascannon, MRP's]


Say after me: lascannon is anti tank, multiple rocket pods are anti troop. Why have you got them mixed together?

Heavy
leman Russ [165][lascannon]
leman Russ [165][lascannon]

Total: 1500


Meh lascannons. Drop and add heavy flamers

Add another Vaklyrie so it won't become a victim of target priority and a Chimera for the CCS. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2394831.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343514/2394831.page GMT