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The fateweaver was on the table, and fired a weapon at a building with some models inside. Building blows up and results in ruins.

However, the fateweaver wanted to then use a template weapon power on the now exposed units. Was this possible? Was the shot resolved against the units per normal flamer rules or was it per the rules for firing templates into buildings?

Thanks! I'm kinda stumped. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2396963.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2396963.page GMT Re:We are legion special rule question http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397013.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397013.page GMT We are legion special rule question http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397036.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397036.page GMT We are legion special rule question ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397059.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397059.page GMT We are legion special rule question http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397125.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397125.page GMT We are legion special rule question
Somnicide wrote:No. You declare all shooting at the same time. Just like you cannot have the blue scribes pavane a unit into a cluster and then breath of chaos them to death.


Yea you're right, I managed to get ahold of the guys codex and actually red the special rule section, were it clearly states you declare all shots before shooting them. I though it was the incorrect way to do it, but had trouble convincing the guy. That reading and this thread was all I needed, you guys are great thanks for the assist!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397412.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397412.page GMT We are legion special rule question http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397434.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2397434.page GMT We are legion special rule question
Shooting from separate units is sequential, though. So if FW blew up the building, another Daemon unit could shoot the unit which came out later in that same shooting phase.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2398067.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2398067.page GMT We are legion special rule question
But sometimes in friendly games, this isn't actually practice. For example, my friend and I go by weapon, instead of by unit. Of course, they can't target different units unless some special rule alllows them to, but otherwise we are a bit more lenient. So if the daemon wanted to use the fire on the building, and then target the unit inside, why not? Or the daemon could've targeted the buiding with the template weapon, and now that it's destroyed the exposed models will be hit by the template. While the rules may not support that, logic says that if a unit wanted to fire a large round that destroys a building, and then lay down a flamethrower, nothing is going to say...now wait, the buidling is destroyed, you can't still use the flamethrower.

I think sometimes the rules can be frustrating because they aren't logical. In a friendly game, nothing is stopping you from making logical concessions. Can a daemon target a ruined building? Why not...and if there are models within then they are hit also. No big deal.

That being said, it's just my take and the rules clearly state otherwise. But it's up to you and your opponent what to do.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2399095.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2399095.page GMT We are legion special rule question
See the first bit on page 80, main rules.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2399103.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2399103.page GMT We are legion special rule question

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kirsanth wrote:To be fair, the template weapon DOES hit the guys inside a building anyway. . .

See the first bit on page 80, main rules.


I know no cover saves are allowed, but I assume you would still need LOS....right?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2399107.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2399107.page GMT We are legion special rule question
Shenra wrote:I know no cover saves are allowed, but I assume you would still need LOS....right?
Only to the building's firepoint(s).]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2399122.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2399122.page GMT We are legion special rule question
Shenra wrote:Everything said here is correct...every unit should declare all targets before shooting actually begins.


Not quite accurate. Every unit fires its weapons simultaneously. Every unit shoots sequentially in an order determined by the owning unit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2399278.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/343819/2399278.page GMT