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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>:<br /> Biker Boss<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span><br /> <br /> Biker Boss<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span><br /> <br /> Troops:<br /> 12x Sluggas<br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span><br /> Trukk<br /> -Red Paint<br /> -Reinforced Ram<br /> <br /> 12x Sluggas<br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span><br /> Trukk<br /> -Red Paint<br /> -Reinforced Ram<br /> <br /> 12x Sluggas<br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span><br /> Trukk<br /> -Red Paint<br /> -Reinforced Ram<br /> <br /> 12x Sluggas<br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span><br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span><br /> Trukk<br /> -Red Paint<br /> -Reinforced Ram<br /> <br /> <br /> 7x Nobz <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>/Cybork <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Waaaggghh Banner/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Combi Flama/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Combi Rocket/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Shoota/Cybork <br /> -Pain Boy/Cybork <br /> <br /> <br /> 7x Nobz <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>/Cybork <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Waaaggghh Banner/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Combi Flama/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Combi Rocket/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Shoota/Cybork <br /> -Pain Boy/Cybork <br /> <br /> Fast Attack:<br /> Deff Kopta<br /> -Buzz Saw<br /> <br /> Deff Kopta<br /> -Buzz Saw<br /> <br /> Let me know what you guys think.  I know people say to stay away from the Trukks, but I love the model and they look awesome as hell with the Nob bikers.  I do think this list will perform decent.  Koptas can tie up units that threaten the trukks....which is almost everything but you know what I mean.  One nice thing is everything is scoring. <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Feb 2011 07:04:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I am guessing those are biker nobs ? I only ask since I dont see any where on them that mentions bikes. <br /> <br /> I assume they are since the warbosses are on bikes.<br /> <br /> And about trukks. I think they are great, fun and very orky. I know the common consensus is to use Battlewagons, but I think trukks work fine. A friend run a speed freak army with trukks and one battle wagon and he does fine.<br /> <br /> One suggestion is stik bomb chukkas maybe, so the units assaulting out of the trukks have stikkbombs.]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Well, first off the trukks will go boom like that, but if your okay with that then thats okay, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> personally chuck in one big mek with kustom force fields, then use the rest to upgrade the koptas to have twin linked rokkits.<br /> <br /> Trukks dont need reinforced ram, but once again with this army your gonna enjoy krumpin stuff!<br /> <br /> But, if your going for a more competetive thing that wont make you blow uup ( as much) <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> drop the ram for rokkits on the trukks.<br /> Including all of the changes i made your list will look like:<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span>: <br /> <br /> Big Mek 1<br /> - Kustom Force Field<br /> - Cybork Body<br /> <br /> Biker Boss 1<br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> <br /> <br /> Troops: <br /> 11x Sluggas <br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> <br /> Trukk <br /> -Red Paint <br /> -Rokkit Launcher 1<br /> <br /> 12x Sluggas <br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> <br /> Trukk <br /> -Red Paint <br /> -Reinforced Ram <br /> -Rokkit Launcher 1 <br /> <br /> 12x Sluggas <br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> <br /> Trukk <br /> -Red Paint <br /> -Reinforced Ram <br /> -Rokkit Launcher 1<br /> <br /> 12x Sluggas <br /> Nob w/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(260);'>BP</span> <br /> Trukk <br /> -Red Paint <br /> -Reinforced Ram <br /> -Rokkit Launcher 1<br /> <br /> <br /> 7x Nobz <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>/Cybork <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Waaaggghh Banner/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Combi Flama/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Combi Rocket/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Shoota/Cybork <br /> -Pain Boy/Cybork 1<br /> <br /> <br /> 7x Nobz <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span>/Cybork <br /> -<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Waaaggghh Banner/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Combi Flama/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/Combi Rocket/Cybork <br /> -Uge Choppa/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Shoota/Cybork <br /> -Pain Boy/Cybork <br /> <br /> Fast Attack: <br /> Deff Kopta <br /> -Buzz Saw <br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkits<br /> <br /> Deff Kopta <br /> -Buzz Saw <br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkits<br /> <br /> Deff Kopta <br /> -Buzz Saw <br /> - <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(126);'>TL</span> Rokkits<br /> <br /> (infact, i figured out you can have rokkits and the ram! <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> i just added everything up and the total came to 1917pts<br /> <br /> What to do with 83 pts?<br /> <br /> another Deffkopta - 70pts<br /> <br /> 13pts to spend..... hmmm<br /> <br /> Cybork Body for the big mek, done!<br /> <br /> The only thing i would do is remove the single rokkits from the nobs, it wont hit most of the time, and still has less chance to do anything, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(269);'>id</span> personally change it to another kombi skorcha.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:36:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Tekeino]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Tekeino list looks loads better even if it is using rubbish Trukks, though Trukks don't need points investing into them so no rokkits. <br /> <br /> List still lacks ranged fire power and a cheap scoring objective considering everything will be speeding ahead. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:40:08]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ mercer]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Thanks a ton for the advice.  Im not sure I want to put rockets on the trukks because I know for a fact their not going to last passed turn 2.  Turn 1 their going to be moving flat out so they wouldn't shoot anyways.  <br /> <br /> I would run the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> Mech, but I am planning on using the Nob Bikers as cover for the trukks.  I checked it out and they do in fact cover 50% of the trukk so it will get the 4+  <br /> <br /> The only reason i have the Rocket on the Nob biker is for wound allocation abuse.  I would however love to be able to fit a third Kopta into the list somehow.  <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 11 Feb 2011 03:15:03]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bad_Sheep37]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Nob bikers just don't work well in the current environment.<br /> <br /> You have no real way to kill razorbacks/rhinos. These units will simply wall block you, force you to assault them to kill them.<br /> <br /> Then you need to hope you make a bunch of 4+ saves from their anti-tank. Wound allocation won't help you there.<br /> <br /> Space wolves would eat this list alive. It's not just a bad match up, it's practically auto lose.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 11 Feb 2011 03:48:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Not saying this will work but I wouldnt roll out this list as an auto lose against space wolves.  Not to mention the Raz spam/Long fang spam is extremely tough to beat so I wouldnt be to upset if i couldnt take it down.<br /> <br /> With that said, Turn 1 I would Turbo boost on my scout move and try and tie up as many long fangs as I could with my lone Koptas.  I would also turbo boost my Nobz getting them the 3+ cover save and then move the trukks behind them granting the 4+  <br /> <br /> Turn 2 my trukks will more than likely be gone so I would hope to Waaaaggghh and get the boyz into assault with something.  Nobz should by now be in range of any target that i was going after.  If not, I made a huge mistake and will have prob lost the game.  <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 11 Feb 2011 05:22:21]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bad_Sheep37]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Bad_Sheep37 wrote:</cite>Not saying this will work but I wouldnt roll out this list as an auto lose against space wolves.  Not to mention the Raz spam/Long fang spam is extremely tough to beat so I wouldnt be to upset if i couldnt take it down.<br /> <br /> With that said, Turn 1 I would Turbo boost on my scout move and try and tie up as many long fangs as I could with my lone Koptas.  I would also turbo boost my Nobz getting them the 3+ cover save and then move the trukks behind them granting the 4+  <br /> <br /> Turn 2 my trukks will more than likely be gone so I would hope to Waaaaggghh and get the boyz into assault with something.  Nobz should by now be in range of any target that i was going after.  If not, I made a huge mistake and will have prob lost the game.  <br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Good tactics, but it only really works if you get first turn. You are right about the strength of the wolf spam list. Sounds like you know what you are doing and what you are up against.<br /> <br /> Good luck with the list.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:27:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yes going second would be extremely tough, But I would just try to use cover to my advantage and maybe keep things out of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> and deny him his long fang shots.  Bikes and Trukks are pretty small and fit nicely behind most buildings and the like.  <br /> <br /> Thanks for the replies =)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sat, 12 Feb 2011 03:04:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Bad_Sheep37]]></author>
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