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				<description><![CDATA[  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> :Warboss - 150 Points<br /> <br />     * Bike, Cybork Body, Power Klaw, Attack Squig <br /> <br /> 	<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>Hq</span> = 150<br /> <br />  Elite: Nob Bikers (5#, 340 pts)<br />     1 Painboy, 76 pts = (base cost 50 + Stikkbombs 1 + Warbike 25)<br />     1 Nobz, 71 pts = (base cost 20 + Warbike 25 + Stikkbombs 1 + Power Klaw 25)<br />     1 Nobz, 51 pts = (base cost 20 + Warbike 25 + Stikkbombs 1 + Big Choppa 5)<br />     1 Nobz, 76 pts = (base cost 20 + Warbike 25 + Bosspole 5 + Stikkbombs 1 + Power Klaw 25)<br />     1 Nobz, 66 pts = (base cost 20 + Warbike 25 + Stikkbombs 1 + Waaagh! Banner 15 + Big Choppa 5) <br /> <br />  Elite: Kommandos (7 130 pts)<br />     1 nob w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>pk</span> and bosspole<br />     2 Rokkit Launchas<br /> <br />  Elite Kommandos (9 140 pts)	<br />     1 Nob w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> and Bosspole<br />     2 Big Shootas<br /> <br /> 	Elite = 610<br /> <br />  Troop: Shoota Boyz (12 117 Pts)<br /> <br />     <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob w/ Bosspole<br />     1 Big Shoota<br />     Trukk - 45 Points<br />         Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram <br />  Troop: Shoota Boyz (12 117 Points)<br /> <br />     <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob w/ Bosspole<br />     1 Big Shoota<br />     Trukk - 45 Points<br />         Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram <br /> <br />  Troop: Shoota Boyz (12 117 Points)<br /> <br />     <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob w/ Bosspole<br />     1 Big Shoota<br />     Trukk - 45 Points<br />         Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram <br />  <br /> 	Troop = 351<br /> <br />  Fast Attack: Warbikers (6 190 pts)<br />     1 Nob w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> and Bosspole<br /> <br />  Fast Attack: Warbikers (6 190 pts)<br />     1 Nob w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> and Bosspole<br /> <br /> <br />  Fast Attack: 15 Storm Boyz - 220 Points<br />           o <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob w/ Bosspole <br /> 	<br /> 	Fast Attack = 600<br /> <br />  Heavy Support: Killer Kans (3#, 135 pts)<br />     3 Killer Kans, 135 pts = 3 * 35 (base cost 35) + Grotzooka x3 30<br /> <br />  Heavy Support: Killer Kans (3#, 150 pts)<br />     3 Killer Kans, 135 pts = 3 * 35 (base cost 35) + Rokkit Launcha x3 45<br /> <br /> 	Heavy Support = 285<br /> <br /> Army Total = 1996<br /> <br /> no kunnin plan yet<br /> <br /> I just worried about balance issues whether I'll have enough boys and heavy dakka to take on Space Marines and such.]]></description>
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				<title>2000 point Ork Army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I don't build bike lists so I can't offer a lot of specifics but, in general:<br /> <br /> Orks are fortunate in that there are several competitive (or at least semi-comp) builds, but you have to pick early in your list-building and stay committed throughout. Hybridizing is right out! You haven't picked a theme so much as you've tried to combine two (Kan Wall plus Biker/<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(234);'>KoS</span>) which generally leads to too much of both but not enough of either. I don't feel like this list has enough synergy. Like, if you're going to do a Trukk rush, don't bring Kans. If you're going to bring Kans, put them under a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> and advance with the boyz on foot.<br /> <br /> Find the 25 points somewhere to Cybork the nobs. Seriously. That's 17% of your entire points total tooling around with a huge "Shoot me!" sign otherwise, and no recourse against high-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span> (or low-<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(6);'>AP</span>, actually) shooting, especially since Bike Nobs have a reputation of being such beasts in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>. It won't even mess up your wound allocation scheme.<br /> <br /> 3 trukks is too few at 2000 points for a trukk rush, especially since the Nobs without cybork will attract (but not absorb) a lot of dakka. A Trukk rush needs to have so many targets that the enemy either splits fire (and kills nothing) or kills one or two but lets the rest through. At 2000 points you should be maxing out Trukk Boyz if you want a proper Trukk Rush. Also, sluggas in trukks and wagons, shootas on foot.<br /> <br /> Find the points somewhere for a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> Mek, stick him in a Trukk (or better yet, a wagon).<br /> <br /> If you're going to take Kommandos, take one large mob, with Snik and burners for a backfield BBQ.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:26:57]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Doctor Optimal]]></author>
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				<title>Re:2000 point Ork Army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ ah yeah thats what I was worried about(I haven't made an army since 3rd grade)<br /> <br /> so how would this one be instead, I don't really want to take Wazzdakka as he is more expensive than a Biker Boss and isn't as tough, I think.<br /> <br /> Warboss - 150 Points<br /> 	Bike, Cybork Body, Power Klaw, Attack Squig <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> = 150<br /> <br /> 6 Nob Bikers  416 pts<br /> 	1 Painboy, 76 pts = (base cost 50 + Stikkbombs 1 + Warbike 25)<br /> 	1 Nobz, 76 pts = (base cost 20 + Warbike 25 + Stikkbombs 1 + Power Klaw 25 + 5 cybork body)<br /> 	1 Nobz, 56 pts = (base cost 20 + Warbike 25 + Stikkbombs 1 + Big Choppa 5 + 5 cybork body)<br /> 	1 Nobz, 81 pts = (base cost 20 + Warbike 25 + Bosspole 5 + Stikkbombs 1 + Power Klaw 25 + 5 cybork body)<br /> 	1 Nobz, 71 pts = (base cost 20 + Warbike 25 + Stikkbombs 1 + Waaagh! Banner 15 + Big Choppa 5 + 5 cybork body)<br /> 	1 Nobz, 56 pts = (base cost 20 + Warbike 25 + Stikkbombs 1 + Big Choppa 5 + 5 cybork body)<br /> <br /> Elites = 416<br /> <br /> 12 Ork Boyz - 117 Points<br /> 	<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob w/ Bosspole<br /> 	1 Big Shoota<br /> 	Trukk - 45 Points<br />         	Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram<br /> <br /> 12 Ork Boyz - 117 Points<br /> 	<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob w/ Bosspole<br /> 	1 Big Shoota<br /> 	Trukk - 45 Points<br />         	Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram<br /> <br /> 12 Ork Boyz - 117 Points<br /> 	<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob w/ Bosspole<br /> 	1 Big Shoota<br /> 	Trukk - 45 Points<br />         	Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram<br /> <br /> 12 Ork Boyz - 117 Points<br /> 	<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> Nob w/ Bosspole<br /> 	1 Big Shoota<br /> 	Trukk - 45 Points<br />         	Red Paint Job, Reinforced Ram<br /> <br /> Troops = 468<br /> <br /> Warbikers 10 290<br /> 	Nob w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> and Bosspole<br /> <br /> Warbikers 10 290<br /> 	Nob w/ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(107);'>PK</span> and Bosspole<br /> <br /> Fast Attack = 580<br /> <br /> BattleWagon - 190 Points<br /> 	Killkannon, 'Ard Case, Armor Plates, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers, Reinforced Ram <br /> <br /> BattleWagon - 190 Points<br /> 	Killkannon, 'Ard Case, Armor Plates, Red Paint Job, Grot Riggers, Reinforced Ram <br /> <br /> Heavy Support = 380<br /> <br /> 	Army Total = 1994<br /> <br /> still may not have all the trukks I would need but 20 warbikers rather than 12 plus 6 nob bikers should be damn killy plus some battle wagons so bring in the big Dakka when needed. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:26:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:2000 point Ork Army</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ OK, Here's a  point Trukk list I beat together. No promises on whether it's good or not (I'm really more of a BW Brigade guy), but it's single-themed.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> 1: 150 Points<br /> Bike Boss with Cybork, Klaw and Squig<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(56);'>HQ</span> 2: 95 Points<br /> Big Mek with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> and Cybork<br /> <br /> Elite 1: 399 Points<br /> 1 Bike Painboy<br /> 5 Bike Nobs<br /> 6 Cybork Bodies<br /> 1 Waaagh Banna<br /> 1 Boss Pole<br /> 1 Power Klaw<br /> (The last 24 points for customizing each Nob is left as an exercise to the reader)<br /> <br /> Troops 1: 151 Points Each [the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(163);'>KFF</span> Mek rides here]<br /> 11 Boyz including a Pole-Klaw-Nob<br /> Trukk with Reinforced Ram and Red Paint Job<br /> <br /> Troops 2, 3,4,5,6: 157 Points Each<br /> 12 Boyz including a Pole-Klaw-Nob<br /> Trukk with Reinforced Ram and Red Paint Job<br /> <br /> Fast 1,2,3: 140 Points Each<br /> 2 Rokkit-Saw Koptas<br /> <br /> <br /> I put in Koptas because scouting 6 Power Klaws into your enemy's backfield is fun. The Rokkits are optional and some people will say not worth it, dropping them would give you 60 more points for the Nobs (making a total of 84 points available), which would give you another one I think.]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Doctor Optimal]]></author>
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