<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "Throwing grenades"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Throwing grenades http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2469369.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2469369.page GMT Throwing grenades 40k game. I think maybe vaguely the new DE book has some thrown grenades, but I may be mistaken.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2469397.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2469397.page GMT Throwing grenades IG demo charge. Frag grenades at Str4, small blast marker, something like 6-12" range (or maybe model Str x 2") would be cool.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2469435.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2469435.page GMT Throwing grenades

It was a lot like Necromunda back then anyway, meaning they had rules for the grenade flying everywhere if you miss or even exploding in your hand.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2469467.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2469467.page GMT Throwing grenades http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2470106.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2470106.page GMT Throwing grenades
TNM wrote:If someone was behing sandbags you should be able to use grenades to flush them out.


You forget that this is the 41st Millennium where you bring a knife to a gunfight, and win.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2470355.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2470355.page GMT Throwing grenades
TNM wrote:If someone was behing sandbags you should be able to use grenades to flush them out.

That's exactly how assault grenades are supposed to work.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2470385.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2470385.page GMT Re:Throwing grenades
Range 6", Str3, AP6, Assault 1, only scatters D6.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2470813.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2470813.page GMT Throwing grenades Str 4 and ap6, very quickly, every model with frag grenades can have an s4 ap6 blast at their disposal; a unit of 10 marines would be able to deal the same damage as 10 missile launchers firing frag missles in 1 shooting phase.

Then you have kraks, specialised for use on vehicles. What would they do when thrown? S6 Ap3/4 blast?

And then meltabombs, Str8 AP1 blast?

That's just against infantry, what if you throw these grenades against vehicles?

I think it's assumed that outside of an assault, units are out of range with their grenades (remember that the tabletop is far from the correct scale for a skirmish, so two units 1" apart could still represent metres away). If you really want grenades in assault, then have a unit that is assaulted take 1 automatic hit per model with assault grenades that is charging them, that wound on a 6+ with armour saves allowed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2470838.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2470838.page GMT Throwing grenades http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472020.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472020.page GMT Throwing grenades
Trust me.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472029.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472029.page GMT Throwing grenades ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472119.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472119.page GMT Throwing grenades
edit: Wait, conscripts don't have frags. So definitely Orks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472120.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472120.page GMT Throwing grenades
Orks would be a roll of 1-5.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472125.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472125.page GMT Re:Throwing grenades ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472177.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472177.page GMT Throwing grenades
TNM wrote:At first playing orks I thought stikkbombs were used as a shooting attack as an auxillary grenade launcher. Why can't i throw them at a unit in the shooting phase?

The range on assault rifles like bolters and las pistols is 24" at maximum and 12" for rapid fire. Comparing that to current ranges an AK or M16 is good to about 500meters on a steady shot or over 200 when firing rapidly.
Similarly pistols are rated at 12" mostly and todays pistols are good out to 100 meters.

How far can you throw a grenade? 10 meters? Its not a baseball, it weighs around 2kg. Try throwing something like that and see how far you can get it.


6" is WAY TO FAR to consider]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472323.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472323.page GMT Throwing grenades http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472383.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472383.page GMT Throwing grenades http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472485.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472485.page GMT Throwing grenades
I'd say both Krak and Melta are sticky bomb type weapons that don't really function well when thrown. They need to be placed onto a surface to explode. Assault grenades would be very weak, probably S2, AP- range = 2xstrength

They're pretty useless as a thrown weapon so best represented as the ability to avoid striking last when charging into cover. The real change that should be made, is making grenades rarer, so charging into cover without them is the norm rather than the exception.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472510.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472510.page GMT Re:Throwing grenades 2. I once upon a time devised a sort of strength check but I forgot it(but a 1 will kill the person throwing)(possibly [str+d6]/2")
3. frag grenades have sharp armor piercing pieces they shouldnt have ap6
4.I just through a 3kg brick 5m and i'm unfit so a 2kg grenade should be no problem for a fit wo/man, yes i weighed and threw a brick

and most importantly 5. please don't hurt me]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472791.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472791.page GMT Re:Throwing grenades
how often to grenades actually kill something in the open anyway? probably never. giving a whole unit extra blast weapons is way too much i think. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472801.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472801.page GMT Throwing grenades
Melissia wrote:You're thinking Orks. Or maybe conscripts.

edit: Wait, conscripts don't have frags. So definitely Orks.

Nah.

Orks would just beat people over the head with the Grenades until either the grenade goes off or until the Ork gets bored.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472818.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472818.page GMT Throwing grenades http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472888.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472888.page GMT Re:Throwing grenades
mrsmith wrote:given that cover is a bit too strong, and grenades are mostly only used in real life to flush out enemies from cover, grenades could maybe do something like negate cover for a round (if in very close range) AND get initiative 10 for an assault,( instead of just not being penalized).

how often to grenades actually kill something in the open anyway? probably never. giving a whole unit extra blast weapons is way too much i think.


given that grenades dont kill often they should "wound"(hurt) slow units down, take cc advantages away for a couple turns]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472907.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472907.page GMT Throwing grenades BS 2 or even 1]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472920.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472920.page GMT Throwing grenades wth real time, it is for the greater good that we must either discard or over simplify grenades, (i still want to blind people with my photon grenades though)]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472962.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472962.page GMT Throwing grenades http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472981.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2472981.page GMT Throwing grenades http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2473688.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2473688.page GMT Throwing grenades
brandon noble wrote:Imagine this...assault grenades. Now where did I read that?


Way to be constructive.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2473723.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2473723.page GMT Throwing grenades
Avatar 720 wrote:
brandon noble wrote:Imagine this...assault grenades. Now where did I read that?


Way to be constructive.


Way to be Constructive.


And now to actually be constructive!

Yeah, personally I understand adn somewhat appreciate the way Grenades are played right now. Yeah, I think that maybe there should be more Defensive grenades, or Terrain Clearing grenades, or something, so it'd be a choice between a few varieties, bujt that's one of the best abstractions that GW has done in this ruleset in my opinion. In a world where everyone's wearing high tech armour (or has really tough skin), I could see a small frag 'nade being little more than something to use to distract an opponent as you charge them. An being a small, cheap grenade, it's going to be, well, cheap. And readily available for everyone.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2474756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2474756.page GMT Throwing grenades
Exergy wrote:How far can you throw a grenade? 10 meters? Its not a baseball, it weighs around 2kg. Try throwing something like that and see how far you can get it.


6" is WAY TO FAR to consider


You serious? I think the kill range of a modern grenade is about 15m, so that's daft.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2475163.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2475163.page GMT Throwing grenades GW's concerns so they want it as warlike as possible.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2475733.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2475733.page GMT Throwing grenades
Anvildude wrote:
Avatar 720 wrote:
brandon noble wrote:Imagine this...assault grenades. Now where did I read that?


Way to be constructive.


Way to be Constructive.


I think you may have missed my post near the top of the page, hmmm?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2475784.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348111/2475784.page GMT