http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Original List:
HQ:
Librarian
Gate of Infinity,The avenger 100
Elites:
Iron clad Dred
HF, Drop pod 180
Iron clad Dred
HF, Drop pod 180
6 sternguard
3cbM 2HF Drop pod 220
Troops:
10 tac Marines
Mg,MM,Rhino 210
10 tac Marines
Mg,MM,Rhino 210
Fast attack:
2 speeders
HFx2, MMX2 140
1 Speeder
HF, MM 70
Heavy Support:
2 Predators
Lascannon Sponsons x2 240

I Have three ideas:
1. A list based around Pedro kantor Maybe taking out a tactical squad and a Predator to Bulk up the First Sternguard Squad and add another.
2: A lysander List, Unfortunatly I cant seem to conjure up a list for this one, I feel like a bit of a lost sheep (Pretty Bad seeing as im Playing Fists)
3: Finally Im thinking of a Vulkan List and maybe Taking out a Predator and one Landspeeder To account for him - Making all my Meltas that bit more deadly along with The flamers. (Side note How do you use Twin Linked Flamers?)
This is the List ive Made for the Third Option:
HQ:
Forgefather Vulkan He'stan 190
Librarian
Gate of Infinity,The avenger 100
Elites:
Iron clad Dred
HF, Drop pod 180
Iron clad Dred
HF, Drop pod 180
6 sternguard
3cbM 2HF Drop pod 220
Troops:
10 tac Marines
Mg,MM,Rhino 210
10 tac Marines
Mg,MM,Rhino 210
Fast attack:
2 speeders
HFx2, MMX2 140
Heavy Support:
1 Predators
Lascannon Sponsons 120

All Feedback Would Be appreciated, I am struggling on Trying to make Lists for the First two Ideas so any Ideas will be valued greatly, Thanks! ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2470244.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2470244.page GMT
I would be happy to go further, but I need to know what models you have or are willing to buy so that I don't suggest something you don't have or want.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2470511.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2470511.page GMT
HQ - Lysander - 200

HQ - Librarian, TDA - 125 Null and whatever you choose as 2nd

Troop - Tac x10, MM, MG, DP - 210

Troop - Tac x10, MM, MG, DP - 210

Elite - Sternguard x10, cbM x5, DP, Locator - 325

Elite - ATerminators x9, 2xLC x2, TH/SS x7 - 360

Fast - LS, MM, HF - 70

Pretty dirty list drop Lysander with the sternguard to bolter drill and have him join up with the DS supersquad next turn. Rest of the list is pretty straightforward.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2471236.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2471236.page GMT LegendJRG : Can you take Lysander in a pod? (Need some clarification) looks quite a nice list though, I need to make sure i can fair quite well against other normal marines, Space Wolves and BA .
My only worry with that list is if there forces are in transports I could drop Lysander with the Sternguard and Prob blow up some Armour but then get shot at by whatever is inside.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2471706.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2471706.page GMT
Interesting that even with you podding in 2 dreads on T1 the enemy chose to shoot up your preds instead ...

I think that if you go heavy on melta/flamer then Vulkan is the way to go. You can always drop the sponsons on the preds - that will save some points and still leave you with 2 Armour 13 vehicles in your backfield.

You could also drop the rhino for a drop-pod for the tacs as well. That will give you 5 drops and 3 dropping on T1, so both dreads and the sternguard guaranteed.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2471824.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2471824.page GMT Ive had another idea for a list Want you guys opinions.
HQ:
Forgefather Vulkan He'stan 190
Librarian
Gate of Infinity,The avenger 100
Elites:
Iron clad Dred
HF, Drop pod 180
Iron clad Dred
HF, Drop pod Locator Beacon 190
5 Assualt Terminators
TH x 5 200
Troops:
10 tac Marines
Mg,MM,Rhino 210
10 tac Marines
Mg,MM,Drop Pod, Locator Beacon 220
Fast attack:
2 speeders
HFx2, MMX2 140
Heavy Support:
1 Predators
Lascannon Sponsons 120 ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2471931.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2471931.page GMT
Run as Black Templars. It would be easy to fluff them as pre-heresy Imperial Fists because its true. It also gets you into a much smaller pool for Throne of Skulls
Templars have different drop pod rules that may make your list more effective because more of it will come down at once rather than in two separate waves. Stick the EC in with any of the 9 man squads

Emperors Champion 140
Accept any challenge

Sword Brethern Terminator Squad with 2 CML's Tank Hunters Drop Pod 295
Dreadnought with Melta and DCCW Drop Pod 145
Dreadnought with Melta and DCCW Drop Pod 145

9 Initiates(Frag Grenades) w/Melta, PF, Drop Pod 208
9 Initiates(Frag Grenades) w/Melta, PF, Drop Pod 208
9 Initiates(Frag Grenades) w/Melta, PF, Drop Pod 208

2 Land Speeders MM/HF]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2475097.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2475097.page GMT DP capacity is 12 and only attached members can go in them so any HQ in TDA has to be attached to that squad when it comes down. Which is actually beneficial to you for purposes of allocating wounds if you need to away from Lysander and you'll most likely be getting the termie's in as well for target saturation and with no scatter they go where they need to prevent counter assaults. If there isn't a lot of armor to deal with you have the tac squads come down first to pop transports as bolter drilling those stern for that one turn is gonna result in a dead anything but 2+ as you'll be within 12 of whatever you choose to be. I like that BT force but for passing IF off as BT to some of "those" people sounds like a headache best avoided imo though.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2475316.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2475316.page GMT The list i want to base it off is this:
HQ:
Forgefather Vulkan He'stan 190
Librarian
Gate of Infinity,The avenger 100
Elites:
Iron clad Dred
HF, Drop pod 180
Iron clad Dred
HF, Drop pod 180
6 sternguard
3cbM 2HF Drop pod 220
Troops:
10 tac Marines
Mg,MM,Rhino 210
10 tac Marines
Mg,MM,Rhino 210
Fast attack:
2 speeders
HFx2, MMX2 140
Heavy Support:
1 Predators
Lascannon Sponsons 120


My question is now Im tempted to get rid of the Librarian as i cant see him fitting anywhere into this list really (Not off the top of my head anyway) Now i was thinking i could do that and Max Out the Sternguard Squad or Maybe Get rid of the Pred and using all the Points to add A Podding Tac Squad in. Or Maybe just Replacing the Pred all together and putting something else in its place once the Stern squad has been maxed out. Your thoughts are welcome. Please Comment ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2477875.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/348171/2477875.page GMT