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				<description><![CDATA[ hi everyone,<br /> i need help with spending my last points for a tourney.<br /> this list is 1750 points and i need help with spending my last 130 points i've got left<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span><br /> 4* melta<br /> (in the vendetta)<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(449);'>PBS</span><br /> 4 additional<br /> chimera<br /> <br /> veterans<br /> 3*melta<br /> shotguns<br /> (in the vendetta)<br /> <br /> veterans<br /> 3*melta<br /> shotguns<br /> (in the vendetta)<br /> <br /> veterans<br /> 3*plasma<br /> chimera+HHF<br /> <br /> veterans<br /> 3*plasma<br /> chimera+HHF<br /> <br /> vendetta<br /> <br /> vendetta<br /> <br /> vendetta<br /> <br /> leman russ battle tank<br /> <br /> manticore<br /> <br /> medusa<br /> <br /> total: 1620 points and 130 left]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:00:02]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ really nobody to help?]]></description>
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				<description><![CDATA[ With vendettas you won't move much as you want full use of the lascannons. For troop carriers I would kit them out as valkyries as these can move and shoot. <br /> <br /> So, I would potentially change two vendettas for valkyries and then add another vet squad + melta with a chimera for 155. Drop plasma to melta on one vet squad to save 15 points and drop one psyker to bring you back in.<br /> <br /> Or keep the 3 vendettas, add two more chimeras. With the remaining 20 points you could replace the medusa with 2 hydras.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:42:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, unless you're really set on air-cav (in which case, you should probably get a couple more skimmers), you're going to want those vendettas as gunboats, not transports. In this case, a majority of your extra points should be absorbed by a pair of chimeras.<br /> <br /> If you're looking to keep this list as as-is as is possible, I'd give the russ a lascannon and sponson bolters to everything that can take them with some doctrines for the vets, or a squad of plasma stormies.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Ailaros]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ yeh, i was looking for maybe 2 extra chimera's and heavy bolters on my russ.<br /> <br /> i will never change my vendetta's, they have done to much for me... i winn battles because of them.<br /> <br /> i have looked for some <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(166);'>plas</span>-stormies, but it is a simple kill point, 6 guys who came down, kill one thing and after that they will die.<br /> <br /> hydra's could also, but i dont have the money to buy them.<br /> and for the medusa, i like a bigg blast who can kill everything.<br /> <br /> and what about this for 130 points? -&gt; veterans, autocannon, 3* grenade launchers and forward senteries.<br /> <br /> my reason for this will be my scoring units.<br /> my melta vets have to go to the enemy line, so they will die when they step out.<br /> the plasma vets will be shot and mostley they will die.<br /> what if i hold just one unit in cover and claim a objective with a 3+ coversave and can also give some damage to other units?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 2 Mar 2011 10:04:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Something that has worked really well for me is:<br /> <br /> Veterans with 3x flamers, sergeant with power fist, demolitions and shotguns. <br /> This unit costs 130 pts. <br /> I have taken out so many points with this unit. They always do their job and get their worth back. In my last game they took out Vulcan and a tactical squad in one round. Lost 2 guardsmen in total from this (close combat vs vulcan who later died vs the power fist). <br /> <br /> Though... I mount mine in a Valkyrie. this to be able to get closer to the enemy.<br /> Valkyries are really something you should try, unless you already have. If I have to choose between a Vendetta and Valkyrie, I'll go for the Valkyrie. the number of shots and wounds it can cause is unbelievable. <br /> <br /> <br /> On to your list. Tons of meltaguns and tons of Vendettas... Are there really so many tanks in the turnament your gonna join?<br /> <br /> I have an Elysian army, and I field 2 Vendettas and 2 Valkyries (in a squadron). <br /> To make up for you last Vendetta I have 1 or 2 units of Storm troopers armed with meltaguns. comes down to 105 pts each... sure its alot, but they take down their target and are not a target them selves from the beginning, as they deep strike (re-roll if not satisfied of course). <br /> <br /> If you want some more scoring, two units of Penal legions are cheep and can do some damage too if used right. ]]></description>
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				<author><![CDATA[ Vash]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ and what about this?<br /> <br /> i have removed the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(449);'>PBS</span> and a veteren squad with plasma gunners, and added a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> with full plasma and a extra melta-vets with chimera<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span> <br /> 4* melta <br /> (in the vendetta) <br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'><span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(338);'>CCS</span></span><br /> 4*plasma<br /> chimera<br /> <br /> veterans <br /> 3*melta <br /> shotguns <br /> chimera+HHF<br /> <br /> veterans <br /> 3*melta <br /> shotguns <br /> chimera+HHF<br /> <br /> veterans <br /> 3*melta <br /> shotguns <br /> chimera+HHF<br /> <br /> veterans <br /> 3*plasma <br /> plasma pistol<br /> autocannon<br /> chimera<br /> <br /> vendetta <br /> <br /> vendetta <br /> <br /> vendetta <br /> <br /> leman russ battle tank <br /> <br /> manticore <br /> <br /> medusa ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 4 Mar 2011 12:25:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, that should work.<br /> <br /> My only concern is that your horde busting is a little thin. I'd be heavily tempted to swap out the medusa for a couple of hydras or take it out infavor of throwing a bunch of heavy bolter sponsons everywhere.<br /> <br /> I mean, with all the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(756);'>TLLCs</span> and BS4 melta, the medusa is the least necessary part of your army at the moment.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:16:56]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ In your first army you could throw in a hell hound but youve already filled your fast slots with the vendettas<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:22:13]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Drop a Lemanruss and add 2 Hydras for added anti-troop power. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:32:05]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ ony one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>??  he is going to get shot in turn 2 or 3.. he's top priority target for your opponent..]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:43:28]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Joske De Veteraan]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Joske <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>De</span> Veteraan wrote:</cite>ony one <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(87);'>LR</span>??  he is going to get shot in turn 2 or 3.. he's top priority target for your opponent..</div></blockquote><br /> Yes, but what AREN'T those lascannons shooting at while they're vainly looking for 6's against AV14?<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Fri, 4 Mar 2011 17:04:52]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Ailaros]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ @ ailaros, youre right of the medusa, i think i dont need him.<br /> i dont have the money to get 2 hydra's, so what can i get to replace?<br /> <br /> @ joske <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(27);'>de</span> veteraan, my leman russ is not my top-priority target.<br /> those vendetta's are the top-targets and the manticore. and if the russ will be set on fire, mostley he will survive with cover or he will not be damaged...]]></description>
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