http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net ive been struggling to find a mech BA list i have faith in and would like help please!

List 1

Librarian, 2 powers, probably unleash rage and shield

6 Assault squads
jump packs removed

razorbacks with assault cannons

2 baal preds
1 with cannon and bolters
1 with flamey flamey

3 vindis

1750 on the nose

thats 11 tanks!!! 28 strength 6 rending shots a turn and 3 str 10 templates

but it seems to have a serious lack of survivability in my eyes, everytime i lose a razorback thats a squad with no use :/

on the other hand i have list 2

libriarian, epilositary with might and sword

chaplain

sanguinary priest

5 death company with power weapons
in a land raider redeemer with a MMelta

10 man assault squad
in a land raider redeemer with a MMmelta

3 assault squads
in razorbacks with turrets

vindi

1740

this one uses death company to punch through hard and the assault squad to hold their obj's/ help the death company

the razorbacks roll around together adding fire support


so the questions are, which one is the scariest? what could improve either of them?

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Librarian shield of sanguinus & unleash rage
Librarian shield of sanguinus & unleash rage
Honour Guard w/ Razorback 2 x flamers - Razorback w/ lascannon & twin-linked plasma gun
Honour Guard w/ Razorback 2 x meltaguns - Razorback w/ lascannon & twin-linked plasma gun

Elite

1 x Sanguinary Priest

Troops

5 x Assault Marines w/ Razorback 1 x flamer - sgt w/ power weapon - Razorback w/ lascannon & twin-linked plasmagun
5 x Assault Marines w/ Razorback 1 x flamer - sgt w/ power weapon - Razorback w/ lascannon & twin-linked plasmagun
5 x Assault Marines w/ Razorback 1 x flamer - sgt w/ power weapon - Razorback w/ lascannon & twin-linked plasmagun
5 x Assault Marines w/ Razorback 1 x meltagun - Razorback w/ lascannon & twin-linked plasmagun
5 x Assault Marines w/ Razorback 1 x meltagun - Razorback w/ lascannon & twin-linked plasmagun
5 x Assault Marines w/ Razorback 1 x meltagun - Razorback w/ lascannon & twin-linked plasmagun

Heavy Support

Vindicator
Vindicator


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i did think about having sternguard in a razorback aswell....]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350026/2499196.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350026/2499196.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350026/2502519.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350026/2502519.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350026/2517075.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350026/2517075.page GMT The first list is a little more 'all comers' than the second list- I think if you dropped the bolter sponsons on the baal and gave a melta to your assault squads, you could give them a little more purpose in the even they lose their ride. With the vindicators, you may as well make both baals the same with assault cannons, I mean it would really suck to deviate onto your own tank and blow it up from 3 vindicators, yes? the ass cannon motivates keeping a bit better range]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350026/2517089.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/350026/2517089.page GMT