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Lords:

Grey Seer: Dispel scroll
-Screaming Bell. 445pts


Heroes:

BSB: Shield. 72pts
Warplock Engineer: Lvl.1 Warp Condenser. 85pts
Warplock Engineer: Lvl.1 Doom Rocket. 95pts


Core:

60xStormvermin: Shields, musician, Banner (razor standard), WFT. 610pts
55xClanrats: shields, Banner, PWM, musician. 325.5pts
55xClanrats: shields, Banner, WFT, musician. 330pts
50xSlaves: musician. 102pts
50xSlaves: musician. 102pts


Rare:

Warp Lightning Cannon. 90pts
Warp Lightning Cannon. 90pts
Doom Wheel. 150pts



Total: 2496pts

So I've probably gotten a little carried away on this list but could this thing actually work or am I getting the ''horde madness'']]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2519120.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2519120.page GMT 2500pt Skaven (Not sure if its competitive or ridiculous) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2520928.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2520928.page GMT Re:2500pt Skaven (Not sure if its competitive or ridiculous) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2521115.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2521115.page GMT 2500pt Skaven (Not sure if its competitive or ridiculous)
I personally don't feel that Clanrats are worthless. WS3 and a 5+/6+ can go a long way. They actually stand a ghost of a chance against WS5+ models, for one. And they don't die in droves. Well. At least not as massive droves.

Strength aside, Clanrats (with shields) have three different instances where they are 16% more survivable than slaves, and are 16% more likely to kill many opponents.

Not always better. But not always worse.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2541265.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2541265.page GMT Re:2500pt Skaven (Not sure if its competitive or ridiculous) (sorry you have that many models, but in their current incarnation they're just not competitive enough)

RatOgres are a personal favorite, generally run in 3x2+ formation... Monks are good too, but lack the high strength attacks of the ogres.
]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2548088.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2548088.page GMT 2500pt Skaven (Not sure if its competitive or ridiculous) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2548277.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2548277.page GMT 2500pt Skaven (Not sure if its competitive or ridiculous)
Warpsolution wrote:...but throw out a huge volume of attacks for less points. They both have their place.


Which, taking a second look at the list, I'd rather trade the Stormvermin AND Screaming Bell for a Furnace+30-40 monks.

Secondly, drop 5-10 clanrats off each unit to add in a couple small gutter runner teams to hunt warmachines on the back field.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2549335.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2549335.page GMT 2500pt Skaven (Not sure if its competitive or ridiculous) http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2549371.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2549371.page GMT 2500pt Skaven (Not sure if its competitive or ridiculous)
And while there are ways (not so much tactics, but I gotcha') to deal with those big blocks, there are other things that you want big blocks around to absorb, like a lot of war machines and direct damage spells.

I usually go with 4 50-ish blocks, and find that to be enough. I'd drop the one Clanrat block, and drag the Stormvermin down to a "more reasonable" size, like 50. The 13 result would be, simply put, devastating. Just be sure to Bless them with Filth first...

With the points saved, you could get some Gutter Runners and/or Rat Ogres, to protect/supplement those blocks.

Also, I'd drop one of the Warlocks. At least one of the wizard levels. Maybe bump up the other to a level 2, for some back-up casting/dispelling.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2555844.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2555844.page GMT Re:2500pt Skaven (Not sure if its competitive or ridiculous)
Lords:

Grey Seer: Dispel scroll
-Screaming Bell. 445pts


Heroes:

BSB: Shield. 72pts
Warplock Engineer: Lvl.2 Warp Condenser. 120pts
Warplock Engineer: Doom Rocket. 45pts


Core:

50xStormvermin: Shields, musician, Banner (razor standard), WFT. 540pts
50xClanrats: shields, Banner, PWM, musician. 302pts
50xClanrats: shields, Banner, WFT, musician. 307pts
50xSlaves: musician. 102pts
50xSlaves: musician. 102pts


Special:

10xGutter Runners: slings. 130pts

Rare:

Warp Lightning Cannon. 90pts
Warp Lightning Cannon. 90pts
Doom Wheel. 150pts

total: 2495pts]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2558115.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2558115.page GMT 2500pt Skaven (Not sure if its competitive or ridiculous)
- first, get that BSB protected. He'd be my first target, guaranteed. A 5+ Ward, at least. Honestly, I'd go Talisman of Preservation, Charmed Shield, and a halberd.

- those slave units are nice, but I think a Pawleader in each would benefit you greatly. Just drop 'em down to 48 models.

- finally, I'd break the Runners into two units. Each unit will panic easier, but with something that fragile, you'll want to spread out your points as much as you can; if your opponent has a mind, he can panic 10 as easily as 5. Killing 3 T3 guys with a 6+ ward is just as easy as killing 2.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2559887.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/351225/2559887.page GMT