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				<title>Rules question: defintion of engaged</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ This came up when I was trying Warmachine out with a friend: if a model moves through an enemy model's melee range on its activation, does it become engaged, and thus vulnerable to a free strike as it passes the enemy on the way to its intended destination?  <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<title>Rules question: defintion of engaged</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ When you enter a model's melee range, you become engaged.]]></description>
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				<title>Rules question: defintion of engaged</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ In short, Yes.<br /> The definition of engaged is simply when your model is within the melee range and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>los</span> of an enemy model. <br />  Some models have reach, some have 360 degree front arcs, and sometimes a wall or some other terrain can block line of sight even when two models are that close, but normally any time you leave an enemy's front arc you provoke a free strike.<br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 05:51:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Correction:  Whenever you leave a model's <i>melee range or line of sight</i> (Prime, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>pg</span>. 51).  Yes, this means you can occasionally take multiple free strikes from one model under certain circumstances.  Fun, no?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:03:48]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Laughing Man]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ I do not believe you could take multiple free strikes from the same model as the only way a model could make the free strike would be if you were in melee range to begin with.<br /> <br /> Also, if a model does not have a melee weapon (such as a squire) can it still be engaged in melee?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:13:19]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Kodo:  Take the Great Bears.  Assuming two of them are in base to base, and you move around one to get somewhere.  As you circle around one, you'll move out of line of the other, triggering a free strike.  As you move back into line, you'll be engaged again.  Keep moving, and you'll take a second free strike (and another from the other Great Bear, obviously).  Ain't reach models fun?<br /> <br /> As for your second question, a model sans melee weapon can still be engaged, but cannot engage other models.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:25:23]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Laughing Man]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Laughing Man wrote:</cite>Correction:  Whenever you leave a model's <i>melee range or line of sight</i> (Prime, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(329);'>pg</span>. 51).  Yes, this means you can occasionally take multiple free strikes from one model under certain circumstances.  Fun, no?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Interesting. Does this mean that you can't avoid free strikes by simply blocking<br /> with your own models? (Typically standard thing for people to do around here)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:49:53]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ malfred]]></author>
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				<title>Rules question: defintion of engaged</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Nope.  You'll just take the free strike earlier.  It did work that way in Mk. 1, but it was changed during the Field Test so that you couldn't squirrel your way out as easily.<br /> <br /> EDIT:  Mind you, if you're engaged by a reach model and move something between the two of you, your model will no longer be engaged and did not move out of line of sight itself.  Thus, it can safely walk away, assuming it backs up carefully.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 06:51:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Rules question: defintion of engaged</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ When she's wearing a ring, but before the wedding.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:14:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Squash]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Laughing Man wrote:</cite>As for your second question, a model sans melee weapon can still be engaged, but cannot engage other models.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I don't believe this is true.  Every model has a melee range of 1/2 inch.  As long a another models moves thru that area and is in the front arc it can be engaged.  I can't think of any model that doesn't have a melee attack or has <u>only</u> ranged attacks.  ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:23:06]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Leo_the_Rat]]></author>
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				<title>Rules question: defintion of engaged</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Leo_the_Rat wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>Laughing Man wrote:</cite>As for your second question, a model sans melee weapon can still be engaged, but cannot engage other models.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I don't believe this is true.  Every model has a melee range of 1/2 inch.  As long a another models moves thru that area and is in the front arc it can be engaged.  I can't think of any model that doesn't have a melee attack or has <u>only</u> ranged attacks.  </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> Bile Thralls.<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:26:01]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ malfred]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Rules question: defintion of engaged</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>malfred wrote:</cite>Bile Thralls...</div></blockquote>...Shifting Stones, Sentry Stones, Wurmwood, Lady Aiyana, Spawning Vessel etc.<br /> <br /> There are also a number of models with only ranged weapons that also have Gunfighter to give them a melee range.<br /> <br /> [edit to infer completeness]]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:52:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ George Spiggott]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Rules question: defintion of engaged</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I sit corrected.  The rulebook says that the model must be using a melee weapon to make a melee attack.  So if there is no weapon listed then it can not make an attack.  If it can't make an attack it can't engage.<br /> I should have remembered Aiyana I actually own her but don't use her much.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:41:37]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Leo_the_Rat]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Rules question: defintion of engaged</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>George Spiggott wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><cite>malfred wrote:</cite>Bile Thralls...</div></blockquote>...Shifting Stones, Sentry Stones, Wurmwood, Lady Aiyana, Spawning Vessel...<br /> <br /> There are also a number of models with only ranged weapons that also have Gunfighter to give them a melee range.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> You forgot almost anyone with a banner...<br /> <br /> Also models without a melee range can't charge.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 15:50:34]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Rules question: defintion of engaged</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Mastershake wrote:</cite>You forgot almost anyone with a banner...<br /> <br /> Also models without a melee range can't charge.</div></blockquote>Add those to the 'models I own but forgot the rules to' list. <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 6 Mar 2011 22:14:49]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ George Spiggott]]></author>
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				<title>Re:Rules question: defintion of engaged</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Leo_the_Rat wrote:</cite>I sit corrected.  The rulebook says that the model must be using a melee weapon to make a melee attack.  So if there is no weapon listed then it can not make an attack.  If it can't make an attack it can't engage.<br /> I should have remembered Aiyana I actually own her but don't use her much.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> The gunfighter rule specifically says the model can use its gunfighter attacks to make free strikes, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(70);'>IIRC</span>.]]></description>
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