http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/16.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net Use chaos defiler profile with these options/modifications:
WS=4
BS=2
Front armor=13
Demolisher cannon instead of battle cannon
2 DCCW as weapon choice (that makes 8 sacred limbs)
Furious charge and +1D3 attacks on charge (as long as it still has 8 limbs, any destroyed DCCW removes this bonus)
Dreadnought's fire frenzy.
Destroyer, as 4th. Ed. vehicular mark of Khorne.(1 reroll to hit CC, dreadnought's fire frenzy and blood rage on 1-2)

What should that cost? 175 points?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2580746.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2580746.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2580757.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2580757.page GMT BS 2, giving it a ranged upgrade would be redundant. Perhaps something like what Blood Talons are? Or maybe a melee debuff for any unit in combat with it, lowing WS,S,T,I, or LD?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2580774.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2580774.page GMT CC, Destroyed - Well, speaks for itself). ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2580876.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2580876.page GMT Brass scorpion is nice, but too big for average games, 550 points, Super-heavy and all that jazz..

This was an attempt at a lighter version, cheap/easy conversion AND potential for 2 S10 AP2 shots if psyched out.

It is almost identical to an actual defiler, but Khornized a bit.

I now think of adjusting attacks to 4, then allow old 4th Ed. fire frenzy apply fully as it was (attacks x2 if blood raged) only.
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1: Shaken - Only ranged weapon can't fire
2: Stunned - Can't do anything for a turn.
3: Weapon Destroyed - Loses a DCCW, loses it's special abilities.
4: Immobilised - Just sits there with it's BS2 Demolisher Cannon
5+6: Destroyed - Smoking crater.

You can see how the damage table really screws it up.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2581744.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2581744.page GMT
1.- Defilers have daemonic possession, so they ignore shaken and stunned results (2/3 glancing and 1/3 pen, quite like having 3++ and 5++, unless Vs. melta or similar).
2.- They could exchange demolisher cannon and/or front AV13 for becoming a fast attack FOC unit, costing 150 points total. (and rendering fire frenzy roll of 6 harmless)
3.- The cannon was there in the first place mainly because of its range decrease would serve as an incentive for The Sigil to seek shorter distance, fluff-wise approved.
4.- There are 4 distinct bonuses*, as well as 4 DCCWs, so one weapon destroyed result (remember, 1 out of 6) could remove just one bonus. (whose choice?)
5.- Some sort of repair option could be added, like a mutating daemonic engine or whatever.

*: furious charge, +1D3 attacks, 1 CC reroll and blood rage.

I think I read about berzerkers riding bipods into combat, this could be a nice chance to add transport capability of 8, Khorne approved. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2583290.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2583290.page GMT DCCW. but it also has chains which 'zerkers can hook onto and use the Defiler as trasnport during it's fleet move.

Look it up, it's funky.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2583610.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2583610.page GMT Any chance you could refer me to the exact FW book it is in?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2583729.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2583729.page GMT GW Apocolypse Book, or the smaller Apocolypse Reload.

it's not of on of the nasty expensive FW books.

Can't find anything online for it but i'll check the book when i get home and try to find a page ref for you.

I know it was part of an Apoc formation as well.....you got bonuses for fielding 3 of them at a time i think.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2583889.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2583889.page GMT Apoc Reloaded.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2584698.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2584698.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2588494.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/354910/2588494.page GMT