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				<description><![CDATA[ I need to increase my 2000 point <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(385);'>WoC</span> tournament army to a 3000 point one for 'Ard Boyz. Mostly need suggestions on how to equip my mounted Chaos Lord.<br /> <br /> 50 Marauders [300]<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Great Weapons, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span><br /> <br /> 50 Marauders [300]<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Great Weapons, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span><br /> <br /> Sorcerer Lord [315]<br /> Level 4, Talisman of Preservation<br /> <br /> Exalted Hero [184]<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Talisman of Endurance, Ironcurse Icon, Halberd<br /> <br /> Hellcannon [205]<br /> Hellcannon [205]<br /> <br /> 10 Chaos Warhounds [60]<br /> <br /> 9 Chaos Knights [470]<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Blasted Standard, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span><br /> <br /> 1 Chaos Lord [285]<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Juggernaut of Khorne, Shield<br /> <br /> Total: 2736 points<br /> <br /> So the Mounted Lord will be in with the Chaos Knights. He has 50 points of Gifts, and 100 points of Magic Items available, and I'm open to suggestions. I also have 10 more Chaos Warhounds available. I'm trying to use what I currently have left over from building my 2k army, which is the 10 Chaos Knights. I will have to buy the Khorne Jugger model, but that's a purchase I'm willing to make. I also might be willing to whip together a Warshrine if it would help the list.<br /> <br /> Appreciate all suggestions and comments.]]></description>
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				<title>3000 Point WoC for 'Ard Boyz - need some help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ iour maths a little off<img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> i would suggest mounting your <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> on a chaos steed and make him run with the knights, im not a fan of tzeentch knights though, since i would never put a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> in a unit of marauders because they are squishy. i also suggest giving your lord a dawnstone(reroll failed armorsaves) and something like the armor of morsleib and drop the sheild, you can't go below 1+ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(400);'>AS</span> anymore. a warshrine wouldn't help so much since you dont have warriors or chosen, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(71);'>IMHO</span> giving blessing to marauders isn't as good as it sounds<img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> also sorcerer lord should get a charmed shield or an infernal puppet<br /> <br /> <br /> heres an example of a upgraded list<img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> 50 Marauders [300] <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Great Weapons, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span><br /> <br /> 50 Marauders [300] <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Great Weapons, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span> <br /> <br /> Sorcerer Lord [340] <br /> Level 4, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Talisman of Preservation, charmed shield<br /> <br /> Exalted Hero [200] <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Talisman of Endurance, Ironcurse Icon, Halberd, chaos steed <br /> <br /> Sorcerer[195]<br /> level 2, Infernal Puppet, Spell Familiar, third eye of tzeentch<br /> <br /> Hellcannon [205]<br /> Hellcannon [205] <br /> <br /> 10 Chaos warhounds[60]<br /> 10 Chaos Warhounds [60] <br /> <br /> 9 Chaos Knights [475] <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, Banner of Rage, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span> <br /> <br /> 1 Chaos Lord [360] <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Juggernaut of Khorne, dawnstone, sword of swift slaying, armor of morsleib<br /> <br /> Total: 2700points <br /> <br /> <br /> try fitting in a unit of khorne warriors with halberds(if you have them) or a unit of tzeentch with <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(59);'>HW</span>/Shield<img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>BTW</span> i might face you at ard boyz;P hahaha<img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Mar 2011 18:38:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bob501]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ On your sorc lord I'd also think about putting 3rd eye on him. Having access to more then one lore is always a plus.<br /> <br /> I agree with what bob501 has added to your juggerlord. I'd also add a potion of strength, just in case you need to tear through a high armor character(dwarf lord of tank anyone?) or high T monsters. Gift wise I'd give him stream of corruption to help eat up infantry in <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(19);'>CC</span>.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 28 Mar 2011 19:36:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>LOL</span> stream of corruption, now that just being mean;P yeah potion of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span><img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> or if you want to kill a monster won't distendable maw work<img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> haha<img src="/s/i/a/39ea8e0dbfb45dcc6b802cd0e198dba3.gif" border="0"> most monsters are I 3-4 so they are bound to fail<img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0"> but yes potion of <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(123);'>str</span> just incase]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Mar 2011 01:11:58]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ bob501]]></author>
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				<title>Re:3000 Point WoC for 'Ard Boyz - need some help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Maw only works on mansized models, <br /> <br /> so no swallowing that dragon(as hilarious as that sounds <img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:43:16]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grey Templar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ the level 2 cant take the puppet and the spell familiar they are both arcane items<br /> <br /> list really needs an anvil unit to hold the fort, 18 warriors of tzeentch with sword and board a standard and musician will only run you 326, drop a few marauders and you can squeeze it in<br /> <br /> papasmurf]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:13:20]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ PapaSmurf]]></author>
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				<title>Re:3000 Point WoC for 'Ard Boyz - need some help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ I'm a dumbass. My regular list has 18 Tzeetch Warrios for the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span> and Sorc Lord to group with. They should have been part of the list all along.<br /> <br /> <br /> 50 Marauders [300] <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Great Weapons, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span> <br /> <br /> 50 Marauders [300] <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Great Weapons, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span> <br /> <br /> 22 Warriors of Chaos [422]<br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Rapturous Standard, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span><br /> <br /> Sorcerer Lord [340] <br /> Level 4, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Talisman of Preservation, charmed shield <br /> <br /> Exalted Hero [200] <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(174);'>BSB</span>, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(102);'>MoT</span>, Talisman of Endurance, Ironcurse Icon, Halberd, chaos steed <br /> <br /> Sorcerer[195] <br /> level 2, Infernal Puppet, Spell Familiar, third eye of tzeentch <br /> <br /> Hellcannon [205] <br /> Hellcannon [205] <br /> <br /> 10 Chaos Warhounds [60] <br /> 10 Chaos Warhounds [60] <br /> <br /> 9 Chaos Knights [475] <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(100);'>MoN</span>, Banner of Rage, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(397);'>FC</span> <br /> <br /> 1 Chaos Lord [285] <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(99);'>MoK</span>, Juggernaut of Khorne, Shield<br /> <br /> Numbers are probably off. The level 2 Sorc needs modification due to previously mentioned errors in item availability. What do I need to change to make this list final? The 2nd group of Chaos Warhounds can be dropped to make room, and the 9 Chaos Knights could be reduced to 7, unless there's a huge advantage to 5x2 vs 4x2.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:24:41]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Mizzri]]></author>
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				<title>3000 Point WoC for 'Ard Boyz - need some help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ Need the knights at least 5 wide, i run a single unit of 6 and it works okay<br /> <br /> your juggy lord needs a big nasty weapon or something like the sword of swift striking to give him some rerolls <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> not a fan of the puppies myself but meh<br /> <br /> dropping the knights down might give you enough for a shrine <img src="/s/i/a/c944477abc92c1c101da485e07ff06d8.gif" border="0"><br /> <br /> cheers <br /> <br /> PapaSmurf]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:44:55]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ PapaSmurf]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ The lord on jugger cant join units]]></description>
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				<title>Re:3000 Point WoC for 'Ard Boyz - need some help</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ yes he can.<br /> <br /> nothing prohibits it unless i am missing something.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Thu, 31 Mar 2011 03:39:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Grey Templar]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ He'd need to worry about cannons though without <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(85);'>LoS</span> and Ward.]]></description>
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