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About to play a 500 point game against Dark Angels, my list so far is roughly

HQ - Primaris Psyker (70)

Troops - Penal Legion troopers x 2 (160)

Elites - Storm Troopers w/2x Melta guns x2 (210)

Chimera (55)

Total = (495)

I was thinking about switching the Penal Legionnaires to Veterans, would they be more effective? how should i kit them out against a guy who plays 2 Rhinos with marines inside? I was thinking about putting the a Storm Trooper unit into the Chimera and rushing up to the Rhinos and dissolving them with melta guns. The Penal Legion would be meat shields, but would Veterans with heavy weapons be more effective?

I've never played a game before and this is just for fun, but what's the best route to take? i have any number of Guard units at my disposal ([i work for a independent GW retailer] just not the massive things like Valkyries and Medusas etc) so i can buy anything you guys suggest. I could really do with some help and ideas for beating these Dark Angels at 500 points. Thanks guys!


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You may want to consider Storm Troopers with plasma guns as well -- the heavy weapons with the vets can open up the rhinos and then the storm troopers can rapid-fire the marines inside to death with their plasmas and hotshot lasguns. Take the "Behind Enemy Lines" or "Reconnaisance" special ops to make sure you are close enough.

To that end, I would recommend a Company Command Squad with lascannon instead of the Primaris Psyker (basically same price). The lone Chimera doesn't really fit in with the rest of the list, I'm not sure what it would do other than sit there (perhaps provide armour for one of the vets). Not sure what you could replace it with though ... ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615134.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615134.page GMT Stormtroopers Against Marines HQ to take on the Rhinos, gotcha. What type of heavy weapons do you recommend for the veteran squads? Autocannons?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615160.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615160.page GMT Stormtroopers Against Marines
Also, remember that the Company Commander can issue the "bring it down" order to twin-link his own lascannon and/or veteran autocannons and grenade launchers.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615182.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615182.page GMT Stormtroopers Against Marines http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615206.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615206.page GMT Stormtroopers Against Marines
Snipers are more meant for monsterous creatures; things like wraithlords, dreadknights, carnifexes, with very high toughness stats, since the sniper rifle always wounds on 4+ no matter what it's shooting at. On a marine, that's only marginally better than plain lasguns (wounding on 5+) whereas grenade launchers with krak grenades are wounding on 2+ and can damage the rhinos, too.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615495.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615495.page GMT Stormtroopers Against Marines AP.
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That said, with BS4 veterans I think it's a crime against the Emperor to give them anything besides 3 plasmas or 3 meltas. Forget sniper/GL/flamer. One thing I've seen done that works really well (for cheap) is give all the Vets in your command squad flamers (for 4 flamers) and stick them in a chimera. Just run that bad boy next to any infantry squad and watch them melt (usually for a full strength squad we're talking about 40 hits, and making them take 20 saves). Absolutely nasty.

Also, avoid penal legion squads I'd say. You could get way better things for the points. And Primaris Psykers are the worst things in the IG codex, IMHO.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615651.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2615651.page GMT Stormtroopers Against Marines
Belerephon wrote:Never take heavy weapons in a veteran squad. Put them in a chimera (always) and make sure you're moving them. The range and target priorities are too different between autocannons and plasma guns.

That said, with BS4 veterans I think it's a crime against the Emperor to give them anything besides 3 plasmas or 3 meltas. Forget sniper/GL/flamer. One thing I've seen done that works really well (for cheap) is give all the Vets in your command squad flamers (for 4 flamers) and stick them in a chimera. Just run that bad boy next to any infantry squad and watch them melt (usually for a full strength squad we're talking about 40 hits, and making them take 20 saves). Absolutely nasty.

Also, avoid penal legion squads I'd say. You could get way better things for the points. And Primaris Psykers are the worst things in the IG codex, IMHO.


but you're giving BS 4 Vets something other than Plasma/ Melta by doing that with a CCS. i agree completely that's a great idea for a PCS.
and i'll second dumping the Penal troops for Vets.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2616116.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/357144/2616116.page GMT