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I haven't built all of my army yet but decided to get some help on building my army of space marines. What I'm planning so far is to have:

HQ

Darneth Lysander

Elites

Dreadnought
-twin-linked lascannon
-replace the CCW with a missile launcher

Troops

I)Tactical Squad (10 Marines)
-meltagun
-missile launcher
-the sergeant has a boltpistol and a chainsword and also has melta bombs and a teleport homer

II)Tactical Squad (10 Marines)
-plasma gun
-lascannon
-the sargeant carries a plasma pistol and a chainsword and a teleport homer as well

III)Scout Squad (10 Scouts)
-Replace the sergeant w/ Sergeant Telion
-missile launcher
-2 scouts with shotguns and 2 with sniper rifles

Fast Attack

Attack Bike
-Multi-melta

Heavy Supprt

I)Vindicator
-Siege shield
-and attach Brother-Sergeant Chronus

II)Devastator Squad (10 Marines)
-2 marines with lascannons
-a marine with a plasma cannon
-a marine with a multi-melta


With all of this this Army comes to 1485 pts

please send feedback on how I may improve this army.




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Leave chronus behind and just put extra armour on the vindicator.

Try to give your Tac transports. I would go with Razors.

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Unless you were Combat Squading your scouts, there is no reason to have both snipers and shotguns in the same unit - decide if it will be a close combat squad, or a long range squad.

I would drop the Attack Bike and Chronus, and try to get another Vindicator. This army seems to be tailored towards fighting a mechanized army. I think fighting a close-combat oriented enemy will prove a tough challenge for you.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2638339.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2638339.page GMT Tac some transports is a good idea since my main opponent uses tau and has a Hammerhead that's annoying to deal with.


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Also in regard to the teleport homers I'm planning to further expand and get a Terminator squad to deep strike in and also get a drop pod for my dreadnought, though I am also deciding to combat squad my scout.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2638345.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2638345.page GMT
HQ

Darneth Lysander

Elites

Dreadnought
-twin-linked lascannon
-replace the CCW with a missile launcher
-dropped in with Drop Pod

Troops

I)Tactical Squad (10 Marines)
-meltagun
-missile launcher
-the sergeant has a boltpistol and a chainsword and also has melta bombs and a teleport homer
Ded.Trans. Razorback w/ twin-linked lascannon

II)Tactical Squad (10 Marines)
-plasma gun
-lascannon
-the sargeant carries a plasma pistol and a chainsword and a teleport homer as well

Fast Attack

Attack Bike
-Multi-melta

Heavy Supprt

I)Vindicator
-Siege shield

II)Vindicator
-Siege shield

III)Devastator Squad (10 Marines)
-2 marines with lascannons
-a marine with a plasma cannon
-a marine with a multi-melta

Ded. Trans. Razorback w/ twin-linked assault cannon

which then come to 1525 points
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I've done the Mathammer, and the TL-Lascannon Razorback is the weakest of the three highest cost options, at least in the Blood Angels codex. It doesn't improve that much on the Las/Plas at long range, and the TL-AC is actually better at destroying AV14. In addition, the TL-AC holds up better against cover. It probably improves in the Vanilla codex, as Vanilla Razorbacks aren't fast, which is more of a loss for the Las/Plas and TL-AC versions. I would suggest you choose the same weapon for all the Razorbacks you take to make target priority more difficult for your opponent.

I also wonder why you want to put a long-range Dreadnought in a Drop Pod. I suppose you will have a better chance at side and rear armor shots, but you pay a premium for the longer range that is wasted when you drop in close. In addition, you give up an easy killpoint. At the very least, remember that you can drop the pod empty, so experiment to find out when that is the better option.

Finally, assuming this list is ultimately going to be 1500+ points, I think you need more troops. You can have 4 scoring units with this list, but at most 2 will be mobile, and 5 man squads of Space Marines are not all that durable. I'd think about working a third Tactical squad in, or possibly a squad of 5 Scouts with Snipers, Cloaks and a Missile Launcher for objective camping. Do not expect them to kill much, but they can go to ground for a 2++ save which makes them borderline impossible to kill with shooting. Stuff that moves up to Assault them will be in range of your Vindicators.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2640651.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2640651.page GMT Your heavy support seems solid though
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I dont know why you are giving your devastators a dedicated transport, seems like a use of heavy weapons. Give the transport to your tac squad.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2640756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2640756.page GMT
I would like 1x lascan + 3x MM for anti-tank work. Knowing the sgt can pump one of them to BS 5. If you want an anti personnel squad, 3 x Plasma Cannon + 1 ML would serve you better again when at range, the ML can be pumped to BS 5 so that is two good accurate shots and overall this will be cheaper and more focused.

If you can, get the devs a razorback as this adds to protection as well as firepower. 75 pts for a las/plas razorback would do wonders.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2640794.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2640794.page GMT Devs was a mistake and is actually suppose to be with the other Tac squad, I may also switch the TL-Lascannon Razorback for a TL-AC, and the Tac squads aren't taking pot shots and are going to go rampage about. Plus the local players around me use strong vehicles and long range weaponry .]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2640985.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2640985.page GMT
Against bad opponents, you should be winning without a need to induce poorer play from them.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2641008.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2641008.page GMT tac squads heavy weapons then, if there going to be rampaging surly it would be better to spend the points else where? As they wont be able to shoot the big guns if there moving all over the show. Just a suggestion (:]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2641089.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2641089.page GMT
HQ

Darneth Lysander

Elites

Dreadnought
-twin-linked lascannon
-replace the CCW with a missile launcher
-dropped in with Drop Pod

Sternguard Veteran Squad (10)
-4 storm bolters
-flamer
-heavy flamer
Ded. Trans. Rhino

Legion of the Damned (5)
-plasma gun
-plasma cannon

Troops

I)Tactical Squad (10 Marines)
-meltagun
-missile launcher
-the sergeant has a boltpistol and a chainsword and also has melta bombs and a teleport homer
Ded.Trans. Razorback w/ twin-linked assault cannon

II)Tactical Squad (10 Marines)
-plasma gun
-lascannon
-the sargeant carries a plasma pistol and a chainsword and a teleport homer as well
Ded. Trans. Razorback w/ twin-linked assault cannon

Heavy Supprt

I)Vindicator
-Siege shield

II)Vindicator
-Siege shield

III)Devastator Squad (10 Marines)
-2 marines with lascannons
-a marine with a plasma cannon
-a marine with a multi-melta

Which all comes to a total of 2,005 points


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The Tac squads aren't exactly rampaging about as I'm planning to have the Razorback deploy them by the objectices or strategic locations and have them there with the transports as support or get close enough so that I can Deep Strike the Legion of the Damned squad or bring in my dreadnought with the drop pod without worrying about scatter, but once they get to where I want them they ain't movin' from there unless the situation changes ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2641644.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2641644.page GMT
HQ

Space Marine Captain
-Artificer Armour
-plasma pistol
-power sword
-digital weapons

Elites

Dreadnought
-twin-linked lascannon
-replace storm bolter with heavy flamer

Dreadnought
-twin-linked lascannon
-replace storm bolter with heavy flamer

Legion of the Damned (5)
-plasma gun
-missile launcher

Troops

I)Tactical Squad (10 Marines)
-plasma gun
-missile launcher
-the sergeant has a bolt pistol and a chainsword and also a teleport homer

II)Scout Squad (10 Scouts)
-Sergeant Telion
-missile launcher
-rest of squad carries snipers

III)Scout Squad (10Scouts)
-missile launcher
-squad carries sniper rifles-Sergeant has plasma pistol and power weapon

Heavy Support

I)Vindicator
-Siege shield
-Brother-Sergeant Chronus

II)Predator
-no change to sponsons or main gun

III)Predator
-no change to sponsons or main gun

Please suggest how I may improve it.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2669549.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358529/2669549.page GMT