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So I run a Heavy Mechanized infantry list (Grenadier Vets+Chimeras) for fluff reasons, but on a more competitive level what do you all think about the Grenadiers doctrine for veterans?

I won't post the points it costs (against Dakka rules, I think?), but it's roughly half the squad's cost for 4+ saves on 10 models. The ability to not get boned by a single flamer seems like a good buy to me, as a ton of weapons are AP5 in my experience. The way I see it, it offers over double the survivability (especially on Gets Hot! rolls). I generally put grenadier vets inside of Chimeras as well, hoping for serious survivability.

Grenadiers, yay or nay?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2638756.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2638756.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2638853.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2638853.page GMT
On the other hand, it's 30 point insurance that buys you, in all probability, one extra turn of life in the face of rapid fire bolters, poison attacks, and flamers. Flamers which may just be on standby for when your chimera pops and you are disembarked in a very small clump. The whole squad in one go, or probably a third to half the squad gone...your choice.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2638959.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2638959.page GMT
If I have my Plasma PCS, I'll often give them grenadiers, but if they're flamer monkeys then I've already shipped off the letters and dog tags to their families at home and sung their praises before they get in that Chimera.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2639226.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2639226.page GMT

P.S originally, all three squads had carpace armor, but then I decided I wanted hydras, so I dropped all but one grenedier doctrine and ditched my sentinels.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2639251.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2639251.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2642179.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2642179.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2642267.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2642267.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2642468.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/358588/2642468.page GMT