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				<description><![CDATA[ Hi Dakka.  I have no idea what I am doing when it comes to building lists for Warmachines or Hordes, so try to take it easy on me.  I picked most of the lists based on the models I liked.<br /> <br /> <b>Scyrah</b><br /> Garryth, blade of Retribution<br /> Gorgon<br /> Griffon<br /> Mage Hunter Strike Force (6)<br /> Mage Hunter Commander<br /> Soulless Escort<br /> Mage Hunter Assassin<br /> Arcanist<br /> <br /> <b>Cygnar</b><br /> Lieutenant Allister Caine<br /> Cyclone<br /> Black 13th Gun Mage Strike Team<br /> Rangers<br /> Gun Mage Captain Adept<br /> Stormsmith Stormcaller<br /> <br /> <b>Cryx</b><br /> Pirate Queen Skarre<br /> Seether<br /> 3 Black Ogrun Boarding Party<br /> 6 Satyxis Raiders<br /> Satyxis Sea Witch<br /> <br /> <b>Legion</b><br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(366);'>eThagrosh</span> the Messiah<br /> Typhon<br /> 3 Warmongers<br /> Shepherd<br /> <br /> <b>Kromac the Ravenous</b><br /> Purebood Warpwolf<br /> 3 Warpborn Skinwalkers<br /> Blackclad Wayfarer<br /> Shifting Stones<br /> War Wolf<br /> <br /> <b>Kromac the Ravenous</b><br /> Pureblood Warpwolf<br /> 4 Tharn Ravagers<br /> Tharn Ravager Chieftain<br /> Tharn Ravager Shaman<br /> <br /> Sorry about posting some many in one thread.  Just a few comments, before everyone can start telling me how clueless I am.<br /> I think I like Hordes better, just a preference, but you may notice a certain look I like from the units I picked from any of the factions.<br /> Thagrosh the Messiah is probably my favorite model<br /> Strangely, since I don't have a unit of them, my favorite looking unit models are the druids.<br /> Favorite heavy/jack are the warpwolves.<br /> Also I think I like the lists in the opposite order that I posted them.<br /> Please help, thanks. <br /> <br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 10 Apr 2011 03:17:14]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ go with what looks cool to you, but your gonna want more beasts in your hordes lists since they are your source of fury.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 10 Apr 2011 06:46:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ What Dave said.  Hordes lists generally need at least their Lock's Fury stat worth of beast fury a turn, which generally means a minimum of one heavy and one light.  More is better, as it gives you access to more Animi, more Transfer targets, and redundancy in case a Warbeast goes down.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 10 Apr 2011 07:00:38]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Wouldn't you better off with pThagrosh instead of e for your list?<br /> <br /> You probably don't need the warmonger and the Shepherd<br /> Fill with Shreeder instead<br /> <br /> and Why the StormSmith with Caine?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:38:36]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Retrias wrote:</cite>Wouldn't you better off with pThagrosh instead of e for your list?<br /> <br /> You probably don't need the warmonger and the Shepherd<br /> Fill with Shreeder instead<br /> <br /> and Why the StormSmith with Caine?</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I might be better off with prime instead of epic, but I prefer the epic model.<br /> <br /> While I don't mind the shredder models, I don't want to just fill in the rest of the points with 3 shredders.  Would you suggest anything else?  What about the stinger or harrier or a raek?<br /> <br /> I have no idea why the stormsmith, other than I had a point left over.<br /> <br /> As for the more beasts, what would you guys suggest?  Both Kromac and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(366);'>eThagrosh</span> are pretty low with their warbeast points.  I could take a pureblood and feral warpwolf with Kromac, but that would be my 15 points.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(366);'>eThagrosh</span>, I could take typhon, shredder, stinger, and another shredder (? maybe).  Any other advice.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Sun, 10 Apr 2011 19:33:32]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ for legion you do not in the first list you dont have enough fury leeching going on for a legion list i would run for 15pts<br /> <br /> Ethag<br /> typhon<br /> carnivien<br /> <br /> for 25 <br /> Ethag<br /> typhon<br /> carnivien<br /> teraph]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 Apr 2011 00:21:26]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>ernshmagl wrote:</cite>for legion you do not in the first list you dont have enough fury leeching going on for a legion list i would run for 15pts<br /> <br /> Ethag<br /> typhon<br /> carnivien<br /> <br /> for 25 <br /> Ethag<br /> typhon<br /> carnivien<br /> teraph</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> How do you fit typhon and carnivean into a 15 point list with eThag?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 Apr 2011 01:36:54]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ boogeyman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ If eThag can fit Typhon and a Carnivean in a 15 point list. pThag would be ten kind of useless. The list is over by 5 points, in other words. It is a 20 point list , unless there is some super secret tier for thagrosh or ways to fit this list,without your opponent looking at you and asking for your cards.....<br /> <br /> <br /> for 15 point , I would go with pThag<br /> <br /> PThag<br /> Carnivean<br /> Scythean <br /> or <br /> pThag<br /> Ravagore x2<br /> or<br /> pThag<br /> Scythean<br /> Scythean<br /> Shredder (for taste, you are not using that 2 points anyway)<br /> <br /> If you want to use eThag<br /> you could go with<br /> eThag<br /> Typhon<br /> Shredder<br /> Shredder<br /> <br /> You need quite some bit of warbeast to be effective with eThag, hence the existence of the Shredder Swarm list.<br /> you might be better of taking a Defender for a pCaine list, but a cyclone is okay too. pCaine is not the assasination piece unlike <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(205);'>eCaine</span><br /> so you need a Warcaster killing model. Ranger depends on your meta, if they like forrest or other concealing terrain pieces ALOT, otherwise you can pick 2xlonggunner OR 2x Gunmages, so you can pick the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(192);'>UA</span> for free<br /> <br /> You usually need more than one Storm caller for them to shine]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:43:51]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Retrias]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Retrias wrote:</cite>If eThag can fit Typhon and a Carnivean in a 15 point list. pThag would be ten kind of useless. The list is over by 5 points, in other words. It is a 20 point list , unless there is some super secret tier for thagrosh or ways to fit this list,without your opponent looking at you and asking for your cards.....<br /> <br /> <br /> for 15 point , I would go with pThag<br /> <br /> PThag<br /> Carnivean<br /> Scythean <br /> or <br /> pThag<br /> Ravagore x2<br /> or<br /> pThag<br /> Scythean<br /> Scythean<br /> Shredder (for taste, you are not using that 2 points anyway)<br /> <br /> If you want to use eThag<br /> you could go with<br /> eThag<br /> Typhon<br /> Shredder<br /> Shredder<br /> <br /> You need quite some bit of warbeast to be effective with eThag, hence the existence of the Shredder Swarm list.<br /> you might be better of taking a Defender for a pCaine list, but a cyclone is okay too. pCaine is not the assasination piece unlike <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(205);'>eCaine</span><br /> so you need a Warcaster killing model. Ranger depends on your meta, if they like forrest or other concealing terrain pieces ALOT, otherwise you can pick 2xlonggunner OR 2x Gunmages, so you can pick the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(192);'>UA</span> for free<br /> <br /> You usually need more than one Storm caller for them to shine</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> I would probably go with the <br /> eThag<br /> Typhon<br /> Shredder<br /> Shredder<br /> Wouldn't I have room for another 2 point model?<br /> <br /> What would you do for Kromac?<br /> Kromac<br /> Pureblood Warpwolf<br /> Feral Warpwolf<br /> Unfortunately, I wouldn't get any druids again.  <br /> <br /> The other factions were not as important, although the Cryx would have been the other list I would have considered.  <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(17);'>BTW</span> thanks for the help.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 12 Apr 2011 00:32:35]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ boogeyman]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Sorry, I don't really play circle, and that list is what i kind of remembered above my head<br /> <br /> Yes you get another 2 point model, you can also go by using 1 shredder and taking a 4 point warbeast(which mean a Raek)<br /> <br /> Do you really want to use Typhon? If you want to he is great, If you don't our -ean chassis over nice things<br /> like<br /> eThag<br /> 2 Scytheans<br /> <br /> most troll player would look in horror in this list, as there is a lot of tough bypassing attacks coming their way , just an idea though]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 12 Apr 2011 05:00:27]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Retrias]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>boogeyman wrote:</cite>Hi Dakka.  I have no idea what I am doing when it comes to building lists for Warmachines or Hordes, so try to take it easy on me.  I picked most of the lists based on the models I liked.<br /> <br /> <b>Scyrah</b><br /> Garryth, blade of Retribution<br /> Gorgon<br /> Griffon<br /> Mage Hunter Strike Force (6)<br /> Mage Hunter Commander<br /> Soulless Escort<br /> Mage Hunter Assassin<br /> Arcanist<br /> </div></blockquote><br /> <br /> With Garryth, you probably don't want that many jacks at 15.  He's pretty focus hungry and the lights really don't do too much for him.  Probably drop both of them and substitute in a Manticore.  After that drop the Arcanist and Soulless Escort and bump the mage hunters up to a full-size unit.]]></description>
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