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				<description><![CDATA[ Hello,<br /> <br /> Title says a bit.  I left somewhere in the middle of 3rd Edition and found myself getting back into <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(3);'>40K</span> about a week and a half ago.  I dug out all my Dark Angels, bought the new rule book as well as the Space Marine and Dark Angels Codex.  I watched a few games, listened to a few gamers about what's changed, and went at building a 1500pt. Army to try and get back into it.  From my understanding deployment and transport play significant roles, and I get that as well.<br /> <br /> Here's where the confusion comes in.  Looking at the Dark Angels Codex and Space Marine Codex there are some significant differences in playing a "core" army.  Specifically points values for squad upgrades like Flamers, Missile Launchers, etc. are free in SMC, where the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> codex charge for them.  Also Scouts are Elites for <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> and Troops for Marines.  I understand I can turn a single unit of bikes (1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(447);'>AB</span> & 1 <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(456);'>LS</span>) into a troop choice as well.<br /> <br /> It seems, unless I am going to play a heavy Ravenwing Army; or want pricey Special Characters, that I am better off sticking with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> Codex over the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> Codex?  Is this a true statement or am I missing other benefits of playing the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> Codex?]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:00:59]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<title>Re:Back after 8 year hiatus, what happened to Dark Angels</title>
				<description><![CDATA[ It's more of "what hasn't changed". The Dark Angels are a little out of date and it shows. From my understanding, they are currently the cheapest codex to mass plasma pistols. That's something.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:05:22]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Yeah, basically, if you want to run 'normal' Dark Angels you'd be much better off with the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> Codex. It seems as though Deathwing or a mixture of Deathwing and Ravenwing are the only competitive builds from their existing Codex.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:29:47]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Just Dave]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Also dont forget to check out the Dark Angels <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> on the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> site.  They put out a <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> to try and bring the Dark Angels up to speed a lil bit I think.  <br /> <br /> Might answer some of your questions there, but as I am not a Dark Angels player, I am not exactly sure what they changed]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:32:31]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Also make sure to grab the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> (don't have a link sorry) it helps make the codex more competitive (for friendly games at least)]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:32:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
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				<description><![CDATA[ Discard your sneaky... backstabbing... conniving... underhanded and deceitful ways and come across to the only honorable (and mead swilling) chapter left in the Empire...<br /> <br /> ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:40:42]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Varl Sigmund]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ well the good thing is, we got a better codex than 3rd and if the codex trend had continued down the road C<img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">A and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>:C were going, it would have been fine.<br /> <br /> However the " less is more" idea, failed, so <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> went down the "more is more" line of reasoning, and several Codexii were left with the old design philosophy.<br /> <br /> Now, IGNORE the people who say these codexii suck, they may not have all the shiny new toys the newer books have, but they do have a charm of there own.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> can still be good in the right hands, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> are still termies and get a 3++ and 2 shot cyclones, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> have 75 point Typhoons, C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> pays 100, and ours can take objectives as they are scoring.<br /> <br /> so its all swings and roundabouts.]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:03:43]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Formosa]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote><div><cite>Formosa wrote:</cite>well the good thing is, we got a better codex than 3rd and if the codex trend had continued down the road C<img src="/s/i/a/baf5f2e54c6b17d5c5d39aecadfa1272.gif" border="0">A and <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(22);'>CSM</span>:C were going, it would have been fine.<br /> <br /> However the " less is more" idea, failed, so <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(50);'>GW</span> went down the "more is more" line of reasoning, and several Codexii were left with the old design philosophy.<br /> <br /> Now, IGNORE the people who say these codexii suck, they may not have all the shiny new toys the newer books have, but they do have a charm of there own.<br /> <br /> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> can still be good in the right hands, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(412);'>DW</span> are still termies and get a 3++ and 2 shot cyclones, <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(744);'>RW</span> have 75 point Typhoons, C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> pays 100, and ours can take objectives as they are scoring.<br /> <br /> so its all swings and roundabouts.</div></blockquote><br /> <br /> C:<span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(119);'>SM</span> Typhoons are 90 points.<br /> <br /> Vehicles are never scoring, even if they are troops. ]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:07:40]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Griever]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <a href="http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1620225a_Dark_Angels_Version_1_1.pdf" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1620225a_Dark_Angels_Version_1_1.pdf</a><br /> <br /> The warp has supplied!<br /> <br /> And seriously, bookmark that page people ¬.¬]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Tue, 12 Apr 2011 23:24:46]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Chaos Lord Gir]]></author>
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				<description><![CDATA[ <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(25);'>DA</span> codex SPECIFICALLY states <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(456);'>LS</span> are scoring<br /> this overrides the GENERAL rule that vehicles never score<br /> <br /> Codex specific beats <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(13);'>BRB</span> general.<br /> <br /> 90pts.. doh! i guess its the <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(330);'>MM</span> i always put on my <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(456);'>LS</span><br /> <br /> Why bookmark, we are already discussing the bleeding <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(36);'>FAQ</span> <span class="glossaryitem" onmouseover='gp(84);'>lol</span>]]></description>
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				<pubDate><![CDATA[Wed, 13 Apr 2011 02:09:45]]> GMT</pubDate>
				<author><![CDATA[ Formosa]]></author>
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