<![CDATA[Latest posts for the thread "1000 pt ork army, help please"]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/14.page JForum - http://www.jforum.net 1000 pt ork army, help please LGS we play 1000 point games and i need help kinda finishing my ork army. Im not really sure what else to buy(im pretty new to 40k and still learning some of the rules). But this is what i have so far.

-HQ-
Big mek: 85
KFF

AOBR warboss: 105
TL shoota
PK and BP
Cybork? (can it take it?)

-Elite-
5 lootas: 75
5 lootas: 75

-Troops-

20 boyz with nob, pk and bp: 170
20 boyz with nob, pk and bp: 170
20 shoota boyz with nob pk and bp: 170
10 gretchin with runthred: 40

-Fast attack-

2 defkoptas with TL rockits: 90

Total: 980

Ok so thats what i have so far, ive never made a list so I feel like there might be some mistakes. But, please tell me what i should take out or add. I do have 3 warbikes, 5 nobz with sluggas and choppas from AOBR. And I do have a trukk. Please help if you see anything wrong or if I need to change/add something. Thanks!






]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715468.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715468.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please
I'd give the big mek heavy armour too

Also, i'd drop one mob of 20 boyz for a 5 ard nobz unit in a trukk (assuming you have a trukk) and give the other squad of 20 eavy armour (to make them ard boyz). AS well as more boyz. As many as you can with your left over points. (remember, Ardboyz are 10 points a model.)

Finally, I'd (if you have enough points and money) invest in a painboy for your nobs. FNP is usefull.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715504.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715504.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please
Big Choppas are S7 on the charge and much cheaper. Leave off on boss poles and give your warboss an attack squig. That should come to about 800 points.

I always prefer the CC fitting on my ork boyz but take one squad of shootas, because why not.

I'd rather personally take bikers than deffkoptas unless you're gonna kit them out with bombs.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715536.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715536.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please
And if the poor guy comes up against guard armiys, he's gonna have alot of trouble dealing with all those tanks.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715555.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715555.page GMT Re:1000 pt ork army, help please
HQ

warboss:110
cybork + eavy armor
pk, bp and tl shoota

Big mek- 90
KFF+ eavy

Elite
2x5 lootas: 150
5 nobz with shootas and sluggas:100
(nobz with warboss and truck)
truk reinforced ram and red paint:45

troops
20 ard boyz, nob with bp and pk: 230
20 boyz with nob with BP and pk: 170
10 gretchin with runthred: 40

FA
2 deffkoptas TL rockit launchers: 90

Total: 1025

awsome, how do you get ard nobz? by adding eavy armor?


limit is 1,000 points.

Force Organization Chart 1-2 HQ, 2-6 Troops, 0-2 Elites, 0-2 Fast Attacks, 0-2 Heavy Support

thats exaclty from the website^^
Should i drop the deffkoptas? gretchin?]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715600.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715600.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please Pk on your non-ard boys unit. They probably wont need it.

Ard Nobz are eavy armoured Nobz, yes. I would recommed you combine the two lootas squad and drop a few to get the points for it. like, one squad of 8 should do it.

Also, the Noz can count as troops because you have a warboss.

I notice you didnt feild a painboy, as per my previous suggestion. I recomend you drop the gretchin to get the points for him. Theres only 10 of them and they have notoriously short range. Thay arennt much use unless swarmed.

You can also get 0-3 Elites, fast and heavy choices BTW.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715631.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715631.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please Trust me, weigh of attacks win you the day with Ork armies. I'd add in some Killa Kans with some strong weapons. Leave out nobs units and all that until you're heading up towards 1,500 points. Dedication to one play style is your best bet in smaller games. Otherwise you don't have enough of a base to build on and everything comes across as mishmash.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715656.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715656.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please
I play guard, favouring Leman russ executioners, punishers and demolishers. Those cut through hordes, in the case of all 3, and Tanks (with the exception of Punishers) with ease. And i can feild up to 9 of them (not in 1000 pts, but i can feild 7 of them in that number) so i think he'd die easily with your list.

]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715666.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715666.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please IG list is in smaller games. There aren't many forces that can stand up to that, especially considering you're asking him to take more elites, no tankbusters and drop power klaws.

Really for fighting tank armies, he should be taking Killer Kans, Burnas, Kommandos, Tankbustas and a lovely shokk attack gun.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715680.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715680.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please
The good news is, that not many people actually play guard that way in small lists. They use vets in chimeras and sentinels usually. So bring in some Rokkits, dead.

Also, the point of putting ad boys in there is to stop all those flamers from decimatinghis boys whenever he gets too close. They arent a waste of points. Plus, they will save his hide if he goes up against Eldar or D.E. all those AP5 shooting weapons got nuthin.

I dont see this forums problem with ard boys, they have been my MOTM 50%+ of the time.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715701.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715701.page GMT Re:1000 pt ork army, help please HQ

warboss:110
cybork + eavy armor
pk, bp and tl shoota

Big mek- 90
KFF+ eavy

Elite
8 lootas: 120
5 nobz with shootas and sluggas, ard armour:160
^^has painboy all nobz have cybork


troops
20 ard boyz, nob with bp and Big choppa: 220
20 boyz with nob with BP and Big choppa: 140
10 gretchin with runthred: 40
1 truk reinforced ram and red paint:45
(nobz and warboss in truck)

Total: 925

I dropped the deffkoptas and added a painboy, i feel like i should use the extra points for boyz or get killa kans for heavy support and cover for boyz. 1000 points is the max nothing over at my LGS ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715708.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715708.page GMT Re:1000 pt ork army, help please PK on the Nobz??? Thats not good. The optimal loadout for Nobz (both IMO and the opinion of a good portion of Ork players on the site) is PK, bosspole. The whole point behind normal boyz is to be casualty cushions to get the nobz into combat. To that end, drop the ard boyz upgrade as there is far to many ap4 weapons around to make it a worthwhile upgrade.

The lone trukk is useless IMO as its really fragile and at 1000pts, it being your only vehicle will be shredded instantaneously, leaving the nobz and boss to be shredded by enemy fire

Biggest issue here is the extreme lack of anti-tank. Personally I don't think this would fare very well against any AV14, and with the high proportion of leman russes around, that is a big issue]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715827.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715827.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please
zerodemon wrote:This is my own personal preference for an army but get rid of the Big Mek and take a Warboss in Mega-Armour. He's better in combat and you get the Waaagh! move. Take 100 Ork boys for 600 points (2 units of 20, 2 units of 30) and take big choppas instead of power klaws on the nobs.

Big Choppas are S7 on the charge and much cheaper. Leave off on boss poles and give your warboss an attack squig. That should come to about 800 points.

I always prefer the CC fitting on my ork boyz but take one squad of shootas, because why not.

I'd rather personally take bikers than deffkoptas unless you're gonna kit them out with bombs.



I disagree with nearly everything you have said...
The PK's are what make the boyz units able to krump virtually ANYTHING in the game (as long as you can catch it), big choppas don't ignore armor saves. The bosspoles are a must, because ork leadership is crap and you want your unit to stick around for as long as you can. Outflank with your koptas with TL rokkits to have the ability to take out through AV 13. The Mega Armored Warboss makes an entire squad of boyz SnP, and that is less than good.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715843.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2715843.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please PK on both nobz


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Updated list
HQ

warboss:110
cybork + eavy armor
pk, bp and tl shoota

Big mek- 90
KFF+ eavy

Elite
8 lootas: 120
5 nobz with shootas and sluggas, ard armour:160
^^has painboy all nobz have cybork


troops
20 ard boyz, nob with bp and pk: 250
20 boyz with nob with BP and pk: 170

Heavy support:
2 killa kans : 90
grotzookas

Total: 990

I think this is alot better i really want the gretchin in for holding onto odjectives.
Thanks guys for all the tips and advide
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HQ

KFF Big Mek - 85

Troops

29 Slugga Boyz; Nob w/PK and BP - 220 points
29 Slugga Boyz; Nob w/PK and BP - 220 points
10 Gretchin with Runtherd - 40 points

Elites

5x Lootas - 75 points
5x Lootas - 75 points

Heavy Support:

Killa Kans x2 - Rokkits - 100
Killa Kans x2 - Rokkits - 100
Killa Kans x2 - Rokkits - 100

995 points ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2716173.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2716173.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please
Anyway, if you insist on having grots- who i note, die easier than regular boys, yet you are telling him drop Ardboys -you could always drop 5 or so regular boys, or 3 'Ardboys, and get your unit of Grots in.

But i tell you, they wont live to shoot the enemies]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2716617.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2716617.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please
Id probli drop the mek and go for another killa kan but its up2 you]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2716644.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2716644.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please

new list:

HQ
warboss:110
pk, eavy, cybork and bp

Elite
8 lootas: 120

Troops
5 nobz, shootas and sluggas:160
painboy, all cybork

20 ard boy shootas with nob, pk, bp: 250
20 boyz with nob, pk, bp: 170

10 gretchin with runthred: 40

Heavy support

3 killas kans: 135
grotzookas

Total: 985



]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2716882.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2716882.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please AP 4 out there. Why not give your opponent 10 more wounds he HAS to contend with, instead of a 4+ save that can be taken away?... I suppose this, like everything else with this game, is personal preference. ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717102.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717102.page GMT Re:1000 pt ork army, help please
So your saying to take out the ard boys and replace it with justr regular boyz?

Ill have 20 shoota
2x 20 boyz all 3 mobs with nob with pk and bp]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717527.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717527.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please CC. Use the kans and terrain wisely to give your boys more staying power as they slog up the field.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717630.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717630.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please Str 8 weapons on them, since that'll wipe the squad incredibly quickly, even with a 5+ invuln. If you're looking for cheap shenanigans, look at giving a couple of them 'eavy Armour, and Bosspoles, maybe a twin linked or combi-weapon or Big Choppa. It'll cost a little, but it does increase their survivability a whole lot, even if it's just 'these three have 'eavy armour, these three have Ammo runts, and this one with 'eavy armour has a bosspole'.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717663.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717663.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717684.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717684.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please
Kaptin Grigger wrote:Again with the Anti-ard boysthing. Thay are great for dealing with infantry. What is the problem?

Anyway, if you insist on having grots- who i note, die easier than regular boys, yet you are telling him drop Ardboys -you could always drop 5 or so regular boys, or 3 'Ardboys, and get your unit of Grots in.

But i tell you, they wont live to shoot the enemies



Grots are kept in reserve for objective capturing purposes only. They never ever go out to fight.



MikeT10 wrote:should i just get rid of the nobz? for more boyz? i dont think the nobz are very good or worth the points


Correct. Footslogging Nobs aren't so hot, they really need to be in a BW for maximum effectiveness.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717786.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717786.page GMT Re:1000 pt ork army, help please HQ
warboss: 100
pk, bp, cybork

Big mek: 90
eavy, kff

Elite
8 lootas: 120

Troops:

10 gretchin and runthred: 40

20 boyz with nob, pk and bp: 160
20 boyz with nob, pk and bp: 160

20 ard boyz shoota with nob, pk ,bp: 240

Heavy support

2 killa kans:90
grotzooka

Total:1000


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hows that?
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Gretch and Lootas in the backfield, of course, to keep your home objective and lay down covering fire.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717966.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2717966.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please
Anvildude wrote:Sounds pretty decent. You going to run it as a Kan Wall, with the Kans in front of the boyz? Might actually be able to 'wrap' the 'ard boyz around the other two mobz, to give everyone a 4+ on all sides, along with the KFF mek.

Gretch and Lootas in the backfield, of course, to keep your home objective and lay down covering fire.


exactly, but if i want a kan wall I would pry need a few more killa kans, but i think i could maby take out the warboss and replace for more boyz and 1 kan]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2718028.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2718028.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please KFF save, however. It might be better to do 2 squads of 3..]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2718418.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2718418.page GMT Re:1000 pt ork army, help please IMO. Still needs a few tweaks

My suggestions are as follows

Drop the bosspole on the warboss. I'm assuming he'll be in one of the boyz mobs, and the nobs already have one, so its pretty redundant

If you drop the eavy armor on the mek as well as the ard boyz upgrade on the shootas you can fit in another kan unit with rokkits. I would even consider dropping the boss completely to make a true kan wall list, as at 1000 pts I find them hard to deal with when they're played well]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2718711.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2718711.page GMT Re:1000 pt ork army, help please AP 5 or 6 wounds; they cost two-thirds of the price of another Ork. I shouldn't have to go on, but I will.

Take a AP-4 or better wound, and you've just lost a ten-point model as easily as you would have lost a six-point model. Do you see much AP-4 or better weaponry? You should, it's pretty common.

Ditch the 'Ard Boyz and play more boyz.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2718788.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2718788.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please

Ok ima drop the boss, but have 15 ard boyz(shootas) so that will give me some more points for kans.

But the ard boyz are good for dealing with other troops and infantry but kinda a waste of points against tanks, i only play 1000 point games so thier isnt a huge amount of tanks and stuff.

So I might maby drop the ard boyz too for just shoota boyz


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Big mek: 90
eavy, kff

Elite
8 lootas: 120

Troops:

10 gretchin and runthred: 40

20 boyz with nob, pk and bp: 160
20 boyz with nob, pk and bp: 160
20 ard boyz shoota with nob, pk ,bp: 240

Heavy support

2 killa kans:90
grotzooka

2killa kans
rockit launchers: 100

Total:1000
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Also, you can drop the 'eavy on the Big Mek, there's plenty of boyz to keep him protected, 85 points for Big Mek with KFF is probably one of the most cost effective HQ's in the game. Also, you may wanna run all your boyz as shoota boyz since you're footsloggin' it. Slugga boyz are better in mech lists.

One other tweak you should consider, is dropping the Gretchin, and taking 2 more lootas and splitting them into 2 groups of 5. This avoids leadership problems and increases your target saturation by quite a bit.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2719541.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2719541.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2725606.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2725606.page GMT 1000 pt ork army, help please BA. But have a small ork army. Bombs and saw thing ( power fist ) the bombs work well on most troops and a power fist on a jet bike is a power fist on a dam jet bike. What's not to like trubo drop bombs then go kill somthing shiney]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2725796.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/363658/2725796.page GMT