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Is there ANY big difference between Plague Marines and regular Space Marines? Blight Grenades and +1 Toughness don't seem like that big of a difference for the cost
Also is there ANY use for Possessed Marines, or is it just me?

This should look much better, but I did it in OpenOffice. If it doesn't make sense, just say so and I'll change it up.

EDIT: Here's the fixed version!

Deamon Prince - 110 - Mark of Slaanesh, Wings, Warptime (160)

(2) Defiler - 150 ea (300 pnt)

Land Raider - 220
+ Dozer Blade - 5 pnts
+ Extra Armor - 15 pnts
+ Combi-Flamer - 10 pnts
(250)

Plague Marines - (6) 23pnts ea
+ Plague Champion - 15 pnts
+ Power Fist - 25 pnts
+ Combi-Melta - 10 pnts
+ (2) Plasma Gun - 15 pnts ea (30)
(218)

Khorne Berzerkers - (7) 21 pnts ea, 168 (Chaos Rhino)(Chaos Sorcerer)
+ Skull Champion - 15 pnts
+ Power Weapon - 15 pnts
(177)

Chaos Sorcerer - (120)
+ Mark of Slaanesh (5)
+ Lash of Submission (20)
(125)

Noise Marines - (8) 20 pnts ea
+ Noise Champion - 15 pnts
+ Power Weapon - 15 pnts
+ (7) Sonic Blaster - 5 pnts
(225)

Chaos Terminators - (5) 30 pnts ea (Land Raider)
+ Combi-Melta - 5 pnts
(155)

Chaos Rhino - 35 pnts
+ Twin-linked Bolter - 5 pnts
(40)

Chaos Space Marines - (6) 15 pnts ea
(90)

((1750)) ]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2727992.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2727992.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728015.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728015.page GMT http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728021.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728021.page GMT IMHO:

10 Chaos Space Marines - Icon of Slaanesh, 2 Meltaguns - Including Champion with Powerfist - Rhino -265pts


or you can simply look at other peoples posts for ideas on how to present it, you also need to see this (http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/281186.page) as you're not allowed to list individual points. If you make it more eligible I'd be happy to provide some more feedback. Anyone providing you with advice should know the stats and rules for the units too so they only add further confusion IMHO.

Glancing over the list however it looks pretty good. I'd recommend a Power Fist instead of Power Weapon on the Skull Champion, dropping the blastmaster and adding some more goodies to the Terminators (at least 1 powerfist/chain fist is needed to help against tanks/walkers/MC's and a Heavy Flamer and Combi-weapons are bargains) as basics, but the core of it looks very solid. Rhinos for your units would also work WONDERS!

As for possessed; they can provide very nice parts for conversions, but when it comes to the tabletop they're pretty poor. It's worth bearing in mind however that they do have very good base statistics (albeit at a price) and can form a good counter-assault unit, but that's not really needed too much in a CSM army.
Plague Marines are significantly tougher than normal marines: Toughness 5, FNP, Fearless, Blight Grenades and easier access to special weapons are all big bonuses. I must admit, I still prefer CSM's, but for holding objectives there's very few troops (and thats by and large the main use for troops) better than the Plague Marines.

As I said however, if you'd clean up the format a bit I'd be happy to help. Welcome to Dakka!]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728031.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728031.page GMT
EDIT: Just found a huge point problem. It'll take a bit longer than planned.


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Aaand another post to show the fact that I fixed my list. Sorry if it's against the rules, I'm still getting used to this forum.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728043.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728043.page GMT MoS and then take warptime? If you give him lash, then give those noise marines a doom siren (str 5 ap 3 template) that can make a nasty combo. (possibly split into 2 squads of 5 noise marines? so two doom sirens? Also consider giving the zerks a Pfist and putting them in the LR, assaulting out of the land raider gives them a larger threat range. And that fist makes them pretty nasty.

As a final thought, combi meltas on any vehicles that can take them are nice, makes rhinos a bit of a threat.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728386.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728386.page GMT MoS was for the point cost. +1 Init is better in CC than anything else I could give him. He's mean to be a "Fly in and feth your gak up" kind of guy.
I took OUT a Doom Siren because it's just too damn expensive, and more efficient to give them all Sonic Blasters.

What's the big draw in giving everything Fists over Weapons? Fists lower your init to 1, and just for more S. Isn't getting past an armor save enough?

If I could afford the points, I'd put more combi-meltas on, and DEFINITELY more Rhinos, but most of my points would go in to more SM anyway since I actually have those models and I don't have more Rhinos. Rhinos are just shiny pinatas though, not really worth putting weapons on when they're just going to run in and explode anyway.]]> http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728444.page http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/preList/364523/2728444.page GMT